Future Of Contracting :confused:

[tractor]

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Yep. This is exactly what has happened at the AA.

I used to get repeat business through them.

Not any more - out of the blue they parachuted in some Indian guy into the programme management team who proceeded to undermine everyone & a lot of the female middle management resigned as he was such a misogynist.

Next thing he's put in charge & he calls all the shots on recruitment. And you can guess where all his bods come from

See post above

[eek]

Yep. This is exactly what has happened at the AA.

I used to get repeat business through them.

Not any more - out of the blue they parachuted in some Indian guy into the programme management team who proceeded to undermine everyone & a lot of the female middle management resigned as he was such a misogynist.

Next thing he's put in charge & he calls all the shots on recruitment. And you can guess where all his bods come from

If I said to look at the ownership of the recruitment agency and kickbacks would that help....

[Gumbo Robot]

This has been my recent experience with some big clients. They have the Indian bodyshops all over them, they even have their own offices inside the clients offices.

From a few hundred contractors they now have less than 10. Any bum on seat roles are Bobs on ICT visas. Any other work is sent to India. Client is very happy with this situation as it is seen as easy to operate, and they believe it reduces costs.

The output is utter tulipe, but the users don't pay the IT costs, so the top management don't care. Money saved goes on short term bonuses for the board.

Yep. This is exactly what has happened at the AA.

I used to get repeat business through them.

Not any more - out of the blue they parachuted in some Indian guy into the programme management team who proceeded to undermine everyone & a lot of the female middle management resigned as he was such a misogynist.

Next thing he's put in charge & he calls all the shots on recruitment. And you can guess where all his bods come from

[tractor]

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This has been my recent experience with some big clients. They have the Indian bodyshops all over them, they even have their own offices inside the clients offices.

From a few hundred contractors they now have less than 10. Any bum on seat roles are Bobs on ICT visas. Any other work is sent to India. Client is very happy with this situation as it is seen as easy to operate, and they believe it reduces costs.

The output is utter tulipe, but the users don't pay the IT costs, so the top management don't care. Money saved goes on short term bonuses for the board.

I trust you reported your 'evidence' to IPSE and BIS?

[vetran]

I think the OP is just after a big hug rather than actually trying to say anything meaningful and serious.

C'mere you big bear

a new softer northernladuk ?

whatever next?

[DimPrawn]

Market is relatively better now (may be because of the time of year) but in general the trend seems to that bigger companies are more and more sending work overseas & any resources they need here, they are preferring to take on board consultants from the major consultancies (Accenture, Wipro, TCS, EPAM etc...)

This has been my recent experience with some big clients. They have the Indian bodyshops all over them, they even have their own offices inside the clients offices.

From a few hundred contractors they now have less than 10. Any bum on seat roles are Bobs on ICT visas. Any other work is sent to India. Client is very happy with this situation as it is seen as easy to operate, and they believe it reduces costs.

The output is utter tulipe, but the users don't pay the IT costs, so the top management don't care. Money saved goes on short term bonuses for the board.

[cojak]

I think the OP is just after a big hug rather than actually trying to say anything meaningful and serious.

C'mere you big bear

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Generic conclusions? Keep your skills up-to-date.

Sink or swim laddie, sink or swim.

[northernladuk]

I think the OP is just after a big hug rather than actually trying to say anything meaningful and serious.

C'mere you big bear

[d000hg]

Market is relatively better now (may be because of the time of year) but in general the trend seems to that bigger companies are more and more sending work overseas & any resources they need here, they are preferring to take on board consultants from the major consultancies (Accenture, Wipro, TCS, EPAM etc...)

Contractor roles are getting more & more scarce with lot of people in market. The balance is not there. Clients have become more & more choosy, n number of interview rounds, they are demanding more skills & domain expertise...

Will this market slowly die out...turning out not worth the hassle due to such tough conditions?

I thought off-shoring was reducing these days, or at least stabilising... the huge rush to outsource everything was a few years ago and contracting survived.

[browntractor]

Market is relatively better now (may be because of the time of year) but in general the trend seems to that bigger companies are more and more sending work overseas & any resources they need here, they are preferring to take on board consultants from the major consultancies (Accenture, Wipro, TCS, EPAM etc...)

Contractor roles are getting more & more scarce with lot of people in market. The balance is not there. Clients have become more & more choosy, n number of interview rounds, they are demanding more skills & domain expertise...

Will this market slowly die out...turning out not worth the hassle due to such tough conditions?

Is it possible that each market has its own dynamics due to different supply and demand conditions?

Are there any useful generic conclusions to be drawn?

[SueEllen]

If your skills are cr*p then no you won't find work.

Also the likes of the large consultancies actually hire contractors.

A lot of my work has been through consultancies. The issue that a few clients have had is team cohesion. So they hire you for your personal skills rather than ability just to do the work.

[shubhoh]

Market is relatively better now (may be because of the time of year) but in general the trend seems to that bigger companies are more and more sending work overseas & any resources they need here, they are preferring to take on board consultants from the major consultancies (Accenture, Wipro, TCS, EPAM etc...)

Contractor roles are getting more & more scarce with lot of people in market. The balance is not there. Clients have become more & more choosy, n number of interview rounds, they are demanding more skills & domain expertise...

Will this market slowly die out...turning out not worth the hassle due to such tough conditions?