Reply to: Job of the Day

[kal]

You are PC's sockie aren't you?

Can't be, the only time I claimed JSA was for 2 weeks in 1996 when I left uni before getting my first graduate job, PC has his own parking space at his local Job Centre

[northernladuk]

C'mon only 3 pages?. This is CUK!, at least 10 pages of comments telling me I'm talking complete bollox are required before I will even consider that I possibly, maybe, could be, a little teeny tiny bit... wrong.

You are PC's sockie aren't you?

[kal]

Agree with this. Kal has this one all wrong but won't let it drop even after 3 pages of posts pointing it out.

C'mon only 3 pages?. This is CUK!, at least 10 pages of comments telling me I'm talking complete bollox are required before I will even consider that I possibly, maybe, could be, a little teeny tiny bit... wrong.

[northernladuk]

Looks to me like the very first step on the "middle management" ladder - probably about £25k's worth in permie land. I made the switch to contracting and decided it would be worth the risk and switch if I could get £250 per day....

Agree with this. Kal has this one all wrong but won't let it drop even after 3 pages of posts pointing it out.

[Old Greg]

That's all very well but not anyone who sat at home watching Jeremy Kyle can apply for a role like this, looks like they want an experienced agile team lead working in financials for 190 notes a day. Client is probably paying £250 so the agent is taking a 30% cut (total conjecture on my part but not beyond the realms of feasibility IMO).

So basically, one would be better off flipping burgers at McDonalds or stacking shelves at Tesco if you factor in holiday and sickness benefits?

[vwdan]

That's all very well but not anyone who sat at home watching Jeremy Kyle can apply for a role like this, looks like they want an experienced agile team lead working in financials for 190 notes a day. Client is probably paying £250 so the agent is taking a 30% cut (total conjecture on my part but not beyond the realms of feasibility IMO).

Looks to me like the very first step on the "middle management" ladder - probably about £25k's worth in permie land. I made the switch to contracting and decided it would be worth the risk and switch if I could get £250 per day....

[kal]

And would be like winning the lottery for someone who is on some crap 0 hour minimum wage contract!

That's all very well but not anyone who sat at home watching Jeremy Kyle can apply for a role like this, looks like they want an experienced agile team lead working in financials for 190 notes a day. Client is probably paying £250 so the agent is taking a 30% cut (total conjecture on my part but not beyond the realms of feasibility IMO).

[vetran]

So £200 / day outside IR35 puts you in the top 10% (more or less).

Of wages it nudges into top 20% for 7.5 hr day.

Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings, 2013 Provisional Results - ONS

At the other end of the distribution, 10% of full-time employees earned more than £27.02 per hour, which was also an increase of 1.5% compared with the previous year.

but household earnings show a slightly different story.

UK incomes: how does your salary compare? | Money | theguardian.com


wage or divis etc.

[vwdan]

So £200 / day outside IR35 puts you in the top 10% (more or less).

And would be like winning the lottery for someone who is on some crap 0 hour minimum wage contract!

[Old Greg]

Absolutely. To get in the top 10% of earners you need to be on £44k a year. That percentage goes down if you start adjusting out the super earners and bringing in self employed etc that skew the number.

So £200 / day outside IR35 puts you in the top 10% (more or less).

[SpontaneousOrder]

Oddly enough this contract could have paid somewhere around the Duke of Cambridge's £40k a year wage for being an air ambulance pilot. I didn't have a clue what they paid pilots but thought it was more than this.

As far as I'm aware your average budget airline pilot with a few years experience is on 35k or thereabouts. It's a desirable job, so competition keeps the wage low.

The Senior pilots at places like BA etc can earn well over 100k.

[d000hg]

£100 a day?, that just about covers my lunch of lobster with a bottle of bollinger to wash it down with, what I am supposed to live on for the rest of the day

Maybe a half-bot would be better.

[northernladuk]

Oddly enough this contract could have paid somewhere around the Duke of Cambridge's £40k a year wage for being an air ambulance pilot. I didn't have a clue what they paid pilots but thought it was more than this.

[northernladuk]

No, just people on here have wildly inaccurate views about the average earnings of average people. Most people, especially those without a professional trade, would consider anything £30k+ to be a good salary. £40k+ is just a dream to the majority of the population.

Absolutely. To get in the top 10% of earners you need to be on £44k a year. That percentage goes down if you start adjusting out the super earners and bringing in self employed etc that skew the number.

[kal]

True. It doesn't mean this contract rate isn't stupid, but you have to laugh at people here who genuinely seem to believe living off £100/day isn't possible.

£100 a day?, that just about covers my lunch of lobster with a bottle of bollinger to wash it down with, what I am supposed to live on for the rest of the day