Reply to: Orgtel - opinions and views please

[Andy Hallett]

Orgtel are part of SThree. Cue Andy H.....

Yep one of ours, feel free to PM your details and I will look into it. Each client has specific SLA for CV submission so I'll need to know which one, It is generally up to a contractor whether they wish to provide this pre-placement.

I know that Orgtel have been using references as a service differentiator to make candidate applications stand out in a very competitive marketplace.

[chopper]

My current role is with Orgtel. I wasn't asked for two references up front, indeed not asked until I was actually offered the role.

[GJABS]

I take it you haven't realised we have an 87 page thread stickied in this very part of the forum dedicated to exactly this practice?

http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...eferences.html

I did yes thanks, and posted a more general question about asking-for-references there.

[northernladuk]

Just digging up an old thread here.

I applied for a role through Orgtel on Jobserve.com, and yesterday they called me about it, wanting me to send them a few lines on what would make me perfect for the (large banking) client.
The trouble is they also wanted me to provide two references prior to submitting the application to the client saying the application "coversheet has to be complete to submit or the internal team will not submit it to the hiring manager. ".

Hmmm it could be true, but I have grave reservations that it might have been a fishing trip.
So I refused the request, and have heard nothing more yet.
Did I take the right decision I wonder?

I take it you haven't realised we have an 87 page thread stickied in this very part of the forum dedicated to exactly this practice?

http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...eferences.html

[uk contractor]

My experience with them was got a role through them then the salary turned out to be 20% less than advertised due to no paid overtime (client manager said no-one got paid over time agent told me verbally it was no problem to earn an extra 20% a day on overtime onsite due to 10+ hour days & weekend work on a high hourly overtime rate) which was bulking the salary up to be way more than the base daily rate which was poor. I never got the actual contract in writing sent to me it was all verbal with the agent (who is long gone from there) I wonder why....

[TykeMerc]

Give them the details of your last two agents.

Indeed, the end result will be the same as if you gave them full details of the people you actually worked with, you won't hear another word from them.

Of course it's a fishing trip.

[stek]

Now I've had an email back, over 15 lines, saying blah blah very honest etc. And they have enclosed a screenshot of an application form with the end client's company logo, with a field for references on it.
So I'm not sure what to do now. I wouldn't have thought the agent would go to the trouble of faking a client application form just to engage on a fishing trip. But then..

Give them the details of your last two agents.

[GJABS]

Now I've had an email back, over 15 lines, saying blah blah very honest etc. And they have enclosed a screenshot of an application form with the end client's company logo, with a field for references on it.
So I'm not sure what to do now. I wouldn't have thought the agent would go to the trouble of faking a client application form just to engage on a fishing trip. But then..

[GJABS]

Just digging up an old thread here.

I applied for a role through Orgtel on Jobserve.com, and yesterday they called me about it, wanting me to send them a few lines on what would make me perfect for the (large banking) client.
The trouble is they also wanted me to provide two references prior to submitting the application to the client saying the application "coversheet has to be complete to submit or the internal team will not submit it to the hiring manager. ".

Hmmm it could be true, but I have grave reservations that it might have been a fishing trip.
So I refused the request, and have heard nothing more yet.
Did I take the right decision I wonder?

[saptastic]

Hi,
Newbie here, just joined. I am interviewing for a contract gig with a financial instituition with Orgtel as the agency.

As it's my first ever contract, I would like to have views/opinions about Orgtel (do you recommend, issues with payment, do they pay on time, etc)?

I did search this site but the posts and info was quite old.

Many thanks

Orgtel are part of SThree. Cue Andy H.....

[ross]

Just another agency to me . They pay on time but play games when it comes to rate negotiation / hike, stand your ground.

[Guesswho]

Thanks for your input.
Would prefer to not disclose the client at this point.

[kevpuk]

HSBC?

[eek]

General rule of thumb - no news equals good news.

unless its after the interview and you are waiting for feedback / an offer.....

[SueEllen]

General rule of thumb - no news equals good news.