Reply to: Disclosure Scotland - is this transferable?

[MojoDog]

Crapita do it all the time

Mechanical Permit Officer - Seascale Cumbria - September-25-2013 (DDaK4) is the first example I found on jobserve

and I know the extra r comes from Private Eye but every time I deal with them I remember why they require it.....

Seconded. I applied for an "urgent" nuclear role which then stalled because of security clearance checks during which they insisted on me sending originals of my passport and birth certificate up to Cumbria. I pointed out that my DV clearance was processed through another dept of Crapita and surely they could carry out background checks by contacting them? Computer said "No". Luckily my passport and birth certificate were returned but they have managed to lose my Basic Disclosure certificate

And no, I didn't take up the contract.

[JRCT]

I've just started a third contract to ask for this.

The first asked me to pay the £25 but then reimbursed me once it was all ok.

The second, Lloyds, said the only reason they wouldn't accept the first one I did was because it was over a year old. Fair enough, but I had to pay for that one myself.

The third time, the one I did for Lloyds has been accepted because it's less than a year old.

I was also told that if they did have to apply for it again it WOULD speed up the process because I'd done it before.

[quackhandle]

Cheers for comments, yep told this morning I have to go through Disclosure Scotland (why call it that?).

No problem with the process, it's being told about it 36 hours before due to start at client site. FFS!

qh

[TykeMerc]

Crapita do it all the time

Mechanical Permit Officer - Seascale Cumbria - September-25-2013 (DDaK4) is the first example I found on jobserve

and I know the extra r comes from Private Eye but every time I deal with them I remember why they require it.....

Yup, currently on a Crapita contract and I had to stump up for it. It was not negotiable and nothing to do with other clearances being in place or not.

[eek]

it's completely dependant on the client and their requirements i.e. how recent they want it to be.

I've used a previously obtained SD for a new client (it was less than six months old).

It also has nothing to do with Scottish clients. Lloyds insist on them for some roles.

As TM says its got nothing to do with Scottish clients. Disclosure Scotland are the only people who provide Criminal Background checks to the general public.

[DaveB]

I have a valid Standard Disclosure (all clean) from Oct 2012 , I take it I would only need a Disclosure SCOTLAND if my prospective client was actually in Scotland?

Can you transfer them? Would having a valid one speed things up?

qh

No, as commented earlier in the thread it's only considered valid at the point the check is carried out. If you get a new gig in three months time and the client decides they want one you'll have to get another check done. Rinse and repeat for every gig requiring it.

[TestMangler]

it's completely dependant on the client and their requirements i.e. how recent they want it to be.

I've used a previously obtained SD for a new client (it was less than six months old).

It also has nothing to do with Scottish clients. Lloyds insist on them for some roles.

[SteelyDan]

I have a valid Standard Disclosure (all clean) from Oct 2012 , I take it I would only need a Disclosure SCOTLAND if my prospective client was actually in Scotland? You are joking, right?

Can you transfer them? Would having a valid one speed things up?

qh

IIRC - no they are not transferable. I had one thru Capita for one gig (pub sec), then had to do it again for current one (priv sec).
And no, having had one previously doesn't speed up anything, I think there are set timescales.
If you go to the relevant website all will be clarified.

Oh, and the clients in question (& agencies) didn't pay for them; the business did, which was 'expensed'.

[quackhandle]

I have a valid Standard Disclosure (all clean) from Oct 2012 , I take it I would only need a Disclosure SCOTLAND if my prospective client was actually in Scotland?

Can you transfer them? Would having a valid one speed things up?

qh

[eek]

I don't think it is. We would expect the client to arrange (and pay) or we'd do it ourselves and wear the cost.

Small or big agency?

Crapita do it all the time

Mechanical Permit Officer - Seascale Cumbria - September-25-2013 (DDaK4) is the first example I found on jobserve

and I know the extra r comes from Private Eye but every time I deal with them I remember why they require it.....

[Taita]

I don't think it is. We would expect the client to arrange (and pay) or we'd do it ourselves and wear the cost.

Small or big agency?

Sounds like you are contracted to an agency in the chain run by some master agent (who is responsible under their contract with the client for obtaining disclosure) and they are asking your agency to stump up who, in turn, are passing the cost on to you.

It seems like something that should be prevented by the Employment Agency Regulations but probably (because they were drafted by idiots to satisfy political idiots) is not.

Attached to your post Andy because you may have more to say on this.

[Andy Hallett]

Just been asked to do this. It seems that it provides no benefit to the contractor, and is part of risk management for the client.

When did it become normal practice to transfer the cost to the service provider / contractor?

I don't think it is. We would expect the client to arrange (and pay) or we'd do it ourselves and wear the cost.

Small or big agency?

[financial analyst]

How does this end up an expense of the contractor?

Just been asked to do this. It seems that it provides no benefit to the contractor, and is part of risk management for the client.

When did it become normal practice to transfer the cost to the service provider / contractor?

[BoredBloke]

I once asked about this and was told that the disclosure is only valid for the particular point in time when its made. So if you need a disclosure for the following day/week/month/year then a new one is needed.

[drumtochty]

Two years ago a friend who is a teaching assistant.

She works in three different schools in the Aberdeenshire Council area, she is part time.

She needed three different disclosure Scotland tickets for each of the three schools and that was one employer.