Permie contract: consultancy or sectorial business ?

[b0redom]

That is one of the most dangerous things to consider. The salary is lower though.

Then tell them you want more money. FFS when did this become PermieUK?

[northernladuk]

Well my tuppence worth...

Large consultancy..
Chance to move around, in charge of your own career, structured training/career path, benefits probably flexible, easy to disappear as a number if that is what you want, more chance of getting 9-5 without fear of getting the push

Small company
Probably hard work, little chance to move around, probably not much training or related support structure, good recognition for work, little scope for slacking but possibly good rewards if company successful, won't be a number and will have to step up, more chance of it going wrong if you don't fit but could be rewarding.

Just have to pick what type of worker you are and see which environment suits you.

Remember you pay tax on company cars so they are not the perk they used to be many years ago, most people take the cash option.

[zerointeractive]

It's not like you are going to choose the project you want to work on.

That is one of the most dangerous things to consider. The salary is lower though.

[Antman]

Don't see how a consultancy offers structure. They are going to put you onto a project to earn fees, what you think of the role on the project doesn't come into it. It's not like you are going to choose the project you want to work on.

[zerointeractive]

Not sure how on earth we are supposed to make a decision bearing in mind we know nothing about you or what these two gigs are. It's your life, your job and your history. How about you grow some and make your own decision... or at least post some information to go on? It's just complete guesswork.

True, but guesswork works great in this case, because it is pure personal opinion.

To give you some additional info, I am a BA since 4 years and have in total 13 years experience in IT.
Started as sw developer, grown into DBA and BI analyst, I have moved into more BA and had recently an ad-interim PM role, so I would prefer to stay in BA or PM roles rather than going back to coding. Even if this requires going back to permie.
The problem is that the only contract roles I find are 9 out of 10 times based on SAP, which I don't know at all. Everything else are permie contracts.
I have a 1-year child and a wife, and although I am not looking for stability (I don't believe in a job/company for my entire life) I need money

The consultancy giant offers meal vouchers, company car and an average salary, but is known to be a meat grinder. They recently became one of largest IT business consultancy firm in Europe after acquiring another well-known anglo-dutch multinational (some of you will recognize who they are).

The other offer came by a business that proclaims on their website to be the "world’s largest wholesale technology distributor and a global leader in IT supply-chain, mobile device lifecycle services and logistics solutions".
The team is small (maybe less than 10 people) but they are working on supply chain and logistics on a global scale, that gives me more warranties in terms of technologies in use destination.
The salary package does not contain a company car and the job may not be structured as the one in a consultancy company.

[northernladuk]

Not sure how on earth we are supposed to make a decision bearing in mind we know nothing about you or what these two gigs are. It's your life, your job and your history. How about you grow some and make your own decision... or at least post some information to go on? It's just complete guesswork.

[eek]

I'd choose consultancy, it has similar model to the contractor kind of work, so you would still have the same attitude instead of settling in a permie for life, also most likely will give you exposure and experience with very good clients that would look good on your CV. You probably have a say on which project to go to and therefore could spend the time building a good portfolio.

In addition with consultancy one can get a lot of extras on on client site , e.g. travel expenses, per diem, lunches if, if they send you away stay in a good hotel, so you could use hotel facilities (e.g. gym/ spa etc) it all adds up.

Your experience of Permie life in a consultancy is very different to mine. Started at a good one got taken over then wallop all the nice bits above disappeared.

Take the job that is most likely to give you the experience you want. You can be sure you'll learn about x y and z in the sectorial business, in the consultancy you could end up being a BA at x because someone discovered you're arrived and they are a person short.

[SandyD]

I'd choose consultancy, it has similar model to the contractor kind of work, so you would still have the same attitude instead of settling in a permie for life, also most likely will give you exposure and experience with very good clients that would look good on your CV. You probably have a say on which project to go to and therefore could spend the time building a good portfolio.

In addition with consultancy one can get a lot of extras on on client site, e.g. travel expenses, per diem, lunches if, if they send you away stay in a good hotel, so you could use hotel facilities (e.g. gym/ spa etc) it all adds up.

[northernladuk]

Pick the job that doesn't require you to use the word advice IMO.

[cojak]

Permie contract: consultancy or sectorial business ?

As a permie, which offers the best benefits and training?

[stek]

After 4 months of applying to contract roles, it appears that nothing else than permie is available for my skills (BA).
Got 2 offers that are interesting because are SAP based and can potentially increase my knowledge in this lucrative skill.
One offer is from a consultancy company (an elephant with 70.000 employees), the other one is from a sectorial business interested in logistics/supply chain.
Having the desperate need of a job, which one will you chose ?

Thanks for your suggestions!

As a contractor, which one would yield the best in terms of profit?

[zerointeractive]

I know I should have posted into another forum, but I need the advise of senior contractors here.
I am not really willing to go back to permie, but honestly after 4 months of applying to contract roles, it appears that nothing else than permie is available for my skills (i'm a BA) so I feel like I have to renew them.
Got 2 offers as a permie (they won't hire me as a contractor) that are interesting because are SAP based and can potentially increase my knowledge in this lucrative skill.
One offer is from a consultancy company (an elephant with 70.000 employees), the other one is from a sectorial business interested in logistics/supply chain.
Having the desperate need of a job, which one will you chose ?

Thanks for your suggestions!