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Originally posted by thus78 View PostYes you can. I was on furlough from March to May for 2 months then I secured a contract. My accountant told me that I can apply to the furlough schema if I am not invoicing my client(s) anymore. After the end of your contract date you can apply.
The tax man will almost certainly investigate every furlough claim, starting with the big ones and working down. And their interpretation will be different.
For just over £1000 it might prove not to be worth it.
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Yes you can. I was on furlough from March to May for 2 months then I secured a contract. My accountant told me that I can apply to the furlough schema if I am not invoicing my client(s) anymore. After the end of your contract date you can apply.
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I claimed for a period last year due to the extreme circumstances the world was in.
You can claim when you’re not doing work that makes money. Looking for work does not, in itself, make money: we know this because people can spend months looking and not earn a penny.
Claiming if the extraordinary circumstances have affected your likely clients/industry is by the rules.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
I find that extremely difficult to believe. You can count the number of experienced guys on here doing their own accounting and I've not met a contractor in the workplace that doesn't. If he's worked the last year he should have an accountant.
I think we went off topic anyway .... I think we got to this point purely because somebody said 'ask your accountant' ... but lots of readers on here won't have accountants now ... but such contractors wouldn't be able to claim anyway.Last edited by mogga71; 4 March 2021, 17:41.
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Originally posted by CatBlack View Post
If his business has no income, how is it supposed to maintain its workforce?
And I've lost count of the number of times I've pointed out that there is no way anyone can say which businesses have been affected by COVID-19, and which haven't.
hth
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostSo do you think he can legitimately claim when the first sentence in the guidance says 'If you cannot maintain your workforce because your operations have been affected by coronavirus (COVID-19),'?
And I've lost count of the number of times I've pointed out that there is no way anyone can say which businesses have been affected by COVID-19, and which haven't.
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
It is not for me or anyone else to judge. If you are entitled to something you are entitled to something. I find it curious people on this thread who no doubt pay themselves the minimun amount through PAYE to reduce tax are criticising someone legitimately claiming through a government scheme.
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Originally posted by agentzero View Post
As a counterpoint, in some circumstances it is worth claiming JSA to ensure your state pension period is topped up regardless of the fact you have no job/income. At the current time people may be seeing many life changes that result in a change of contracting from outside IR35 to inside. Not everybody is a long term contractor and many have suffered financial losses, so I don't judge those who go for JSA or with to claim what they are entitled to. Given the amount of tax people, particularly contractors, are going to be paying back soon for many years, despite having received probably no financial help or benefit otherwise and only negativity from fussy clients, far higher taxes and HMRC hoops to jump through, I think that some people are being ignorant in not applying for any help out of some misguided principle.
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Originally posted by ContractorBanking View PostI think we should just state what the law is and let individuals decide if its morally acceptable.
Besides, its no different to contractors/permies taking money from their client/employer whilst surfing/making personal calls during their working hours. And let's be honest, this is far more costly, as its done over years.
Your example isn't a good one though. We've had it mentioned a few times on here about contractors getting in trouble for this so it does happen. And IMO it is different. One is (arguably) claiming money from the gov you are not due, the other is doing what everyone in the world does and clients are ok with it to a point. Not a good comparison at all. A better one is my one about claiming expenses that are not business related. You can do it if you ignore the criteria but it comes with a risk it could go south. Do we advise newbies they can claim their family holidays because the process is there or do we tell they can't because it doesn't meet the criteria?
So I don't think telling him to follow the process to do it without guiding him about what is right or wrong about it is good advice. As you can see with the spat between myself and Cat the law isn't very clear and then nor is the interpretation. Nothing to do with morally acceptable.
What we can do is point out that the OP is not in a position to claim it yet but sometime down the line when he is clearly affected by covid he can
But I've not shut have I. I'll shut up now.Last edited by northernladuk; 4 March 2021, 15:28.
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I think we should just state what the law is and let individuals decide if its morally acceptable.
Besides, its no different to contractors/permies taking money from their client/employer whilst surfing/making personal calls during their working hours. And let's be honest, this is far more costly, as its done over years.
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Originally posted by NowPermOutsideUK View Postthe problem is that as director you can furlough yourself - being affecetd by covid is subjective - In this case you can argue that not having a new job on friday to start on monday means you cant continue and should furlough yourself
I am of the view that all directors can furlough themselves with little come back - Moral aside that is the law
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the problem is that as director you can furlough yourself - being affecetd by covid is subjective - In this case you can argue that not having a new job on friday to start on monday means you cant continue and should furlough yourself
I am of the view that all directors can furlough themselves with little come back - Moral aside that is the law
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Originally posted by Lance View PostDid you join the forum just for this argument?
Originally posted by Lance View PostWho's sockie are you?
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Originally posted by CatBlack View Post
Just because you keep saying that, it doesn't mean you've won the argument.
Did you join the forum just for this argument? Who's sockie are you?
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