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For 50% higher rate I would genuinely make love to my work, colleagues and the organisation also
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For a 50% higher rate I would genuinely love the work, my colleagues and the organisationOriginally posted by edison View PostAlso depends on sector - Financial Services is obviously very different to e.g. Public Sector.
Across all contracting I would say 450-550 is a good rate outside FS.
For me, I also factor in work/life balance and how interesting the work/company looks. However, not everyone can afford that luxury in the current market.
Personally, good is 600-700, great 750+.
My last rate was 600 in a not for profit. A mate was doing almost an identical role for 900 but I wouldn't have swapped as I genuinely loved the work, my colleagues and the organisation.
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Also depends on sector - Financial Services is obviously very different to e.g. Public Sector.
Across all contracting I would say 450-550 is a good rate outside FS.
For me, I also factor in work/life balance and how interesting the work/company looks. However, not everyone can afford that luxury in the current market.
Personally, good is 600-700, great 750+.
My last rate was 600 in a not for profit. A mate was doing almost an identical role for 900 but I wouldn't have swapped as I genuinely loved the work, my colleagues and the organisation.
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Both pretty average bordering on low now imho. Seem to be a few firms trying to drive these down though.Originally posted by Dante View PostI work in automation / devops type roles, and for me £450 is decent outside of London. £550 if I have to commute into the big smoke.
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Looking at the market stats, I would say £450pd is the average offered rate, £650pd is a good rate and anything over £800pd is an excellent rate.Originally posted by simplicity View PostObviously everyone's perception may be different. But there I always talk of a "good" rate. For me anything £400 and above is a good rate for a PM / PMO role. How about you?
The truth is anything that pays the bills and you find interesting is a good rate.
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I started out on £500 a day in London about 5 years ago.
I then got offered £450 a day about 20 minutes from my house and I stayed there for two years until I returned to the perm world.
The highest I ever went for was £1200 a day. I would have loved that one :-(
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"Good rates" are also country specific and dependent on your tax setup. A flat number (unless it is very large) is meaningless without context. In Germany it used to be around €700 per day, until tax laws on freelancers changed. In Sweden €900 per day (or £800) is still good considering the tax situation. Declared UK rates are definitely down on the job sites, but that could be as much a reflection on the use of other recruiting channels (LinkedIn etc) for higher quality positions, as anything else
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It does, as long as it lastsOriginally posted by ladymuck View PostA good rate is one that pays the bills and allows you to build a decent warchest. A great rate does that in a shorter amount of time.
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A good rate is one that pays the bills and allows you to build a decent warchest. A great rate does that in a shorter amount of time.
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Funnily enough 30K is now the base salary for many support & back office roles in the city so FS sector seems to think its a great salary. I remember the good old days when they used to have to offer £50-60K + a hefty bonus to fill these roles (you needed all of that as well to pay the daily lunchtime bar bill alone!!).Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThis is like saying anything above 30K is a great salary.
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Times change.Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostGood grief, even in the late 1990's I would have described a good rate as being above 400 a day. How times haven't moved on. This is like saying anything above 30K is a great salary.
Java when it was the big thing in the 90's, I knew a guy on 2.5K per day.
That wasn't unusual.
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Firstly, the key word is "good", not great.Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostGood grief, even in the late 1990's I would have described a good rate as being above 400 a day. How times haven't moved on. This is like saying anything above 30K is a great salary.
Secondly, even after a good amount of expenses, £400p/d is putting you in the top 2% of earners in the country. £30k, on the other hand, is only just above the average salary.
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Good grief, even in the late 1990's I would have described a good rate as being above 400 a day. How times haven't moved on. This is like saying anything above 30K is a great salary.
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