Reply to: State of the Market

[oliverson]

maybe it's not them??
maybe it's closer to home?

Weird kind of logic you have there. Why contact me in the first place? Surely the provision of my phone number in a timely manner isn’t enough to offend? What has changed between that request and it being fulfilled? A short period of time!

[sadkingbilly]

It's happening again!!

So, late yesterday afternoon I'm approached on LinkedIn regarding a short piece of work. I ask the usual questions, etc. and they get answered aside from sending me the spec., which they sent through early this morning. It looks like a nice little project with potential for extensions, so I'm interested and ask the day rate.

NOTHING

WTF is wrong with these people? Usually it's the provision of my mobile number they've asked for that kills the opportunity stone dead. Now it's asking the rate.

I just don't know anymore, I mean, this is hardly a one off, it's EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Booked a tennis court for this afternoon with a 'feels like' temp. of 33 C, so I'm just going to take it out on my ball firing machine and then get pissed in clubhouse.

maybe it's not them??
maybe it's closer to home?

[oliverson]

It's happening again!!

So, late yesterday afternoon I'm approached on LinkedIn regarding a short piece of work. I ask the usual questions, etc. and they get answered aside from sending me the spec., which they sent through early this morning. It looks like a nice little project with potential for extensions, so I'm interested and ask the day rate.

NOTHING

WTF is wrong with these people? Usually it's the provision of my mobile number they've asked for that kills the opportunity stone dead. Now it's asking the rate.

I just don't know anymore, I mean, this is hardly a one off, it's EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Booked a tennis court for this afternoon with a 'feels like' temp. of 33 C, so I'm just going to take it out on my ball firing machine and then get pissed in clubhouse.

[quackhandle]

Current bug-bear is the amount of CV harvesting / non-existent gigs thank you Robert Half.


You feel like calling them out on LinkedIn, but even then they wouldn't bother to get in touch and deny it.

qh

[ladymuck]

Some strange names of agencies coming through

Trust in Soda ??

They've been around a while, seen them on LinkedIn but not had any engagement with them.

[AndyGarbs]

Some strange names of agencies coming through

Trust in Soda ??

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I seem to be getting a sniff at a few permie roles - even had 2 recruiters contact me this week. Not sure it'll lead to anything but it's an improvement on previous tumbleweed. I'd deleted my Linkedin as I was so sick of it - my new profile with almost zero history and about 3 connections is already proving better than the 1000+ connections regular postings one I used to have.

[ladymuck]

I find it amazing people still use terms like Windoze and think its cool... Then again some people still live with their mothers at age 43...

Nah, it's not for cool points. It's a sign of disrespect to the product by refusing to call it by the name it's been given.

[oliverson]

I find it amazing people still use terms like Windoze and think its cool... Then again some people still live with their mothers at age 43...

Agree and it's usually kids not those from the other end of the spectrum.

Next up M$.

[sadkingbilly]

keep popping back here hoping something has change with the market... Nope - will check back in couple more months :d back to permie land

dltdsyaotwo

[sadkingbilly]

I find it amazing people still use terms like Windoze and think its cool... Then again some people still live with their mothers at age 43...

i don't think its cool, i think its crap

[dx4100]

Keep popping back here hoping something has change with the market... Nope - will check back in couple more months back to permie land :P

[dx4100]

I find it amazing people still use terms like Windoze and think its cool... Then again some people still live with their mothers at age 43...

[sadkingbilly]

Introduction to Programming back in the day (early 90s) at Uni.

1st semester: Turbo Pascal, nice to learn, there's an error on this line and it's probably because of this...

2nd semester: COBOL There's an error - F**ked if I'm telling you where the error is or what it is.


So I was not a fan of COBOLLOX.

qh

just like ALL windoze 'apps' then

[oliverson]

Seeking to maximise personal revenue, while minimising effort should not be detrimental to one's clients and doesn't break 'Rule 1'. One won't maximise revenue over the long term by doing poor quality work; similarly, minimising effort equates to delivering in the most efficient manner. It's transactional.

At business school we're taught that the objective of the firm is to maximise profit (shareholder value). For a firm, workers are a means to that end. It's therefore, I suggest, rational for workers to consider the firm (client) as a means to an end. To my mind this is not indicative of a detrimental attitude.

I'm sure we've all seen capable workers who were naively loyal to a firm getting ditched when the firm no longer needs them. This is particularly the case for people who become middle-managers and lose marketable skills along the way. I do think that some (smaller) firms are still benevolent to their workers, but I've noticed a general decline in this over the decades. I simply see working for a living as a transaction, not a relationship.

Nicely put, I was just going to tell him to **** off! lol..