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Previously on "State of the Market"

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  • KentDogWalker
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    legend


    contract?

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  • KentDogWalker
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    happy perm atm but noticing less recruiters phoning about contracts

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  • SussexSeagull
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post

    If the viability of your commute depends on being able to expense travel and accommodation then it isn't really a commute.
    I can cope with a commute but staying away from home during the week is unlikely with an Inside contract unless it is serious money or they are paying expenses.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post

    If the viability of your commute depends on being able to expense travel and accommodation then it isn't really a commute.
    it's still a commute. Just one you cannot afford to do.
    Say for example if you live in Hull and get a cleaners job in Cornwall. That's still a commute, just unaffordable.

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  • KentDogWalker
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    Originally posted by KentDogWalker View Post

    I'm finding it taking 2-3 times quicker, but I'm pretty fast and good at coaching my skills, also skipping a lot of the agile fluff and cancelling ceremonies
    The trouble with Indian offshoring is that a lot of devs don't stick around coding (hard to find seniors) and trying to get into management and the best ones leave the country

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post

    you can. It's just a commuting cost. Like with a job.
    Which is what it is really.
    If the viability of your commute depends on being able to expense travel and accommodation then it isn't really a commute.

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  • OzzieExpat
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    Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
    Niches are fine while they is still a market for that niche.
    Its simple thermodynamics. Every niche turns to sh*t eventually. Its a matter of timing.

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  • rocktronAMP
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post

    you can. It's just a commuting cost. Like with a job.
    Which is what it is really.
    As a permie now, I have been interviewing mid-level engineers (mostly South East Asians, couple of British born or based folk).
    What is that to do with things you say? It's the youngish 30-40 with 7 to 12 years experience with young family or civil partnership and trying to get on the housing market or attempting to jump up over the £60K /70K barrier (shambles since that was a very good salary in 2002/2003).
    Well that demography are the ones willing to move from around for cheap.
    Kwasi Kwarteng / Truss if only their so-called "mini" budget was toned down enough that it didn't annoy markets (traders), but let the IR35 repeal go through, we'd be all great sitting pretty. Tarnation!

    So I think the State of the Market is going stagnate IMHO, if the companies are not flexible to allow remote working.
    Contractors (the great one and the good ones exluding the bad one) are not easy to find. I think when systems start to go wrong in 2023 and IT Directors realise that it is because they sacked off the architect, infrastructure principal engineer and the rest of all, then they will realise. I also think the best businesses will know this ahead and try the hardest to convert some of these great contractors into consultants, but what the hell am I talking about? I dont know anything ... let the game of musical chairs continue

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post

    It means you can't live somewhere cheap and expect to trouser London money.
    you can. It's just a commuting cost. Like with a job.
    Which is what it is really.

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post

    being inside IR35 reduces geographic mobility.
    It means you can't live somewhere cheap and expect to trouser London money.

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  • SussexSeagull
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    Niches are fine while they is still a market for that niche.

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  • OzzieExpat
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    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    All good contractors should be open to opportunities beyond the exact same client/industry/project they've been working in for years - you should find the market opens up then :-)
    I think we all do that as the industry evolves. New stuff comes out all the time. The other good thing with contracting is that you can choose what you do next, or at least turn stuff down. However it's easier to be in the niche which is your area.

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  • SussexSeagull
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    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    All good contractors should be open to opportunities beyond the exact same client/industry/project they've been working in for years - you should find the market opens up then :-)
    Problem is it can be difficult to break into industry sectors that require experience and being inside IR35 reduces geographic mobility.

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  • PerfectStorm
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    All good contractors should be open to opportunities beyond the exact same client/industry/project they've been working in for years - you should find the market opens up then :-)

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  • Paralytic
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    Originally posted by OzzieExpat View Post

    Not sure I agree with you that there is no such thing as a "IT Market".
    Well, there obviously is. But anyone saying "the market is dead at the moment" or "the market has been great since 2 months ago" clearly a very limited/blinkered view of the world. It's a form cognitive bias/false consensus effect that many fall foul to.
    Last edited by Paralytic; 23 November 2022, 08:43.

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