Deal with Turkey

[darmstadt]

Let me try again. Trade will continue under the same conditions of tariffs (none), customs limitations (none) and regulatory standards (many), all of which can be varied as needed in the future without reference to EU current or future requirements on those areas. The end result is protecting the continuance of £18bn worth of business.

Seriously, it's done, as have many other trade deals over the last few months. Live with it.

You mean the UK have just rolled over all trade deals that they already had but still had to have a lot of meetings about it with various countries first and then have to review them all again in a couple of years? Clever move that, wasn't it? You may also want to look at the 1,246 page document as regards the future as you might be surprised as to how far it keeps Britain still aligned to the EU, a vassal state you might say...

[malvolio]

So if it's exactly the same then those constraints from the EU are there as well or maybe there weren't any constraints from the EU and that is just a myth propagated by Leavers which wouldn't be a surprise

Let me try again. Trade will continue under the same conditions of tariffs (none), customs limitations (none) and regulatory standards (many), all of which can be varied as needed in the future without reference to EU current or future requirements on those areas. The end result is protecting the continuance of £18bn worth of business.

Seriously, it's done, as have many other trade deals over the last few months. Live with it.

[darmstadt]

It is exactly that. Same Ts&Cs, no EU constraints...

No, No No it has to be worse and bind the UK to freedom of movement with massive fraud like an EU deal. Don't you know anything?

So if it's exactly the same then those constraints from the EU are there as well or maybe there weren't any constraints from the EU and that is just a myth propagated by Leavers which wouldn't be a surprise

[AtW]

Same Ts&Cs, no EU constraints...

None whatsoever.

[vetran]

It is exactly that. Same Ts&Cs, no EU constraints...

No, No No it has to be worse and bind the UK to freedom of movement with massive fraud like an EU deal. Don't you know anything?

[malvolio]

Hang on - that was the selling point of Brexit: nice and quick NEW trade agreements unburdened by the shackles of the EUSSR?

It is exactly that. Same Ts&Cs, no EU constraints...

[AtW]

So given a choice of a three year debate to create a wholly new trade agreement

Hang on - that was the selling point of Brexit: nice and quick NEW trade agreements unburdened by the shackles of the EUSSR?

[malvolio]

So given a choice of a three year debate to create a wholly new trade agreement or a simple re-launch of the one we already had with a few changes around sovereignty and legislative basis, which would you way was the better choice? And you do realise there's about £18bn of trade involved?

Yes, I know, the former, since the UK is totally incompetent when it comes to managing its business.

[Old Greg]

Cold in a sandwich is the traditional way.

[Lance]

Free movement between UK and turkey is more likely than turkey membership of the EU.

I can already hear Gove saying that we still have control of our borders so it’s what was voted for.


And I can already here the sound of gammon piss boiling.

[eek]

We already have to a significant extent - ever wondered why we have so many Turkish Barbers?

It's to meet the self employment criteria before Turks get permanent residency...

[darmstadt]

UK agrees a trade deal with Turkey soon but like every other trade deal that Truss has trumpeted, it is just a rollover of the existing deal that the UK had with Turkey as a member of the EU, apart from a couple of differences. This one has to be renegotiated again in 2 years and:

The deal seeks to replicate the trading terms that currently exist between the UK and Turkey, with tariff-free trade on all non-agricultural goods, according to British officials. The UK has also agreed to roll over the preferential tariffs that Turkey enjoys on some agricultural products under its customs union with the EU.

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Remember this bollocks, maybe in 2 years after further discussions, the UK might instead be having freedom of movement with Turkey, now that would be funny...