Reply to: The Golden age of Britain

[PCTNN]

That's just car manufacturing. Hold on to your hats.

uk 2.0 doesn't need cars. uk 2.0 needs tractors and trailers to bring 50 million fruit pickers to the field and back.

[BlasterBates]

If Scotland gets independence, the UK's fishing zone will in effect disappear overnight.

The EU supporting Scotland's re-entry is a no brainer.

It would be amusing if Boris sacrifices the finance industry in favour of fishing and then Scotland becomes independent.

[BlasterBates]

A boost for the Scottish independence campaign:

EU supports Scottish independence

[DaveB]

I see that Remain voting enclave, Gibraltar, is rearing it's head again: Brexit trade talks: EU to back Spain over Gibraltar claims | Politics | The Guardian

Give it a couple of weeks and Argentina will be staking a claim to the Falklands again. If the Lisbon Treaty no longer applies then the EU Duty of Sincere Cooperation, which includes a legal obligation for member states to assist each other in matters including claims over sovereignty disappears.

Going to be a lot harder to maintain claims of sovereignty without EU support. In fact you can probably expect several EU states to support Argentina.

[TestMangler]

I see that Remain voting enclave, Gibraltar, is rearing it's head again: Brexit trade talks: EU to back Spain over Gibraltar claims | Politics | The Guardian

F**k them. They lost, tell them to get over it or f**k to the EU with all the other foreign scum.

Regards,

Ziggy & Shaunbhoy

[darmstadt]

I see that Remain voting enclave, Gibraltar, is rearing it's head again: Brexit trade talks: EU to back Spain over Gibraltar claims | Politics | The Guardian

[BlasterBates]

On of the major reasons for Scotland to stay in the union was that if they left, they would no longer be in the EU. That reason has now evaporated.

The Brexit debate has also delivered powerful arguments for the Scottish Nationalists to win the debate on independence.

It's not about the economy it's about sovereignty and taking back control.

[NotAllThere]

On of the major reasons for Scotland to stay in the union was that if they left, they would no longer be in the EU. That reason has now evaporated.

[BlasterBates]

Yeah and when those young people finally get a job and a mortgage they will realise that as worthy as liberal voting makes you feel, it doesn't actually pay the bills.

The younger voters from the last referendum haven't changed their minds in spite of getting a job and a mortgage. That is also shown in the poll.

Independence is inevitable.

[original PM]

If you look at the poll, you'll notice the main reason for the shift in opinion is because the young people reaching voting age are massively in favour of independence. The longer the referendum is delayed the more likely it is the Scots will vote for independence. There will probably be a second independence referendum in the next 5 years. Project fear won't wash, it will probably make the Scots more determined to vote for independence.

Yeah and when those young people finally get a job and a mortgage they will realise that as worthy as liberal voting makes you feel, it doesn't actually pay the bills.

[Whorty]

If you look at the poll, you'll notice the main reason for the shift in opinion is because the young people reaching voting age are massively in favour of independence. The longer the referendum is delayed the more likely it is the Scots will vote for independence. There will probably be a second independence referendum in the next 5 years. Project fear won't wash, it will probably make the Scots more determined to vote for independence.

Brexidiots like Ziggy don't see the irony between Scots wanting independence from Westminster and what they saw as the UK getting independence from the EU. He thinks it's Ok for Westminster to control the Scots against their will, but cried like a baby at the thought (however untruthful it was) that the EU was controlling the UK.

You can't use logic with idiots. Don't waste you breath.

[BlasterBates]

They won't get independence, for a number of reasons.

Reason 1 - We won't let them have another referendum.
Reason 2 - Not all Scots want to leave the Union.
Reason 3 - They've nowhere to go and nothing to do it with.

If you look at the poll, you'll notice the main reason for the shift in opinion is because the young people reaching voting age are massively in favour of independence. The longer the referendum is delayed the more likely it is the Scots will vote for independence. There will probably be a second independence referendum in the next 5 years. Project fear won't wash, it will probably make the Scots more determined to vote for independence.

[Zigenare]

That is largely irrelevant. It won't stop independence.

They won't get independence, for a number of reasons.

Reason 1 - We won't let them have another referendum.
Reason 2 - Not all Scots want to leave the Union.
Reason 3 - They've nowhere to go and nothing to do it with.

[BlasterBates]

Are the Scots at the head of the queue to join the EU?

That is largely irrelevant. It won't stop independence.

[Zigenare]

Looks like although Britain might be golden it will be getting smaller:

Poll shows majority support Scottish Independence

There's been quite a shift towards independence over the last year.

Are the Scots at the head of the queue to join the EU?