Reply to: oh dear: Theresa May urged to set her departure date by ministers

[original PM]

Canada+++ is totally tariff free, frictionless trade of maple syrup

HTH

FTFY

[AtW]

Canada+++ is totally tariff free, frictionless trade of maple syrop

HTH

[vetran]

Come on SAS, you know he can't think

well we know you can't be funny!

[vetran]

Do you think no-deal would be better?

of course not.

How about a Canada +++ deal?

Brexit news latest: Donald Tusk urges UK to accept offer of 'Canada +++' Brexit deal which has 'been on the table since the very beginning' | London Evening Standard

Speaking to reporters, Mr Tusk first explained that the UK could have not just a free trade accord like that with Canada but also extremely close relations in security, foreign policy and other areas.He said: ""The EU wants a relationship with the UK that is as close and special as possible.
"From the very beginning, the EU offer has been not just a Canada deal, but a Canada plus plus plus deal."

apparently that has been on the table from the beginning.

Which is weird as when offered in March it was considerably fettered. It seems the EU likes cherry picking when they are doing it.

Brexit latest: EU rules out bespoke UK trade deal and says NO to full access to markets for the City | London Evening Standard

The document calls for free trade in goods, where the EU exports more to Britain than it imports, but omits the banking and financial services, where UK has a £20 billion surplus.Britain would not be allowed to slash company taxes, bail out struggling industries or axe costly environmental protection, the text says, as they could give the UK an “unfair competitive advantage”.
The EU also demands the right to fish in British waters on a reciprocal basis.

[WTFH]

Its no-deal all the way.

Isn't that what JRM, BoJo, et al want?

No that is what you think they want, they actually objected to the chequers deal and said no deal would be better.

So, what do they want, if they don't want no deal?

[Whorty]

Do you think no-deal would be better?

Come on SAS, you know he can't think

[sasguru]

No that is what you think they want, they actually objected to the chequers deal and said no deal would be better.

Do you think no-deal would be better?

[vetran]

Isn't that what JRM, BoJo, et al want?

No that is what you think they want, they actually objected to the chequers deal and said no deal would be better.

[Whorty]

ftfy

The advisory referendum that was not legally binding (based on our democracy)?

I'm behind the decision to leave. I don't think a second ref is a good idea as nothing good will come out of it (unless remain wins by 60:40). I'm interested to see where this takes us now.

[shaunbhoy]

Our government, along with all the other governments in the EU, were elected by it's people (that's you an I, if you're not sure) to make decisions on our behalf. One such decision our government made was to offer the Electorate a Referendum in which they could choose to either stay within the EU, or choose to Leave the EU. The Referendum was held and the people voted to LEAVE the EU. That fact having been established, those who LOST the vote should stop being such a churlish bunch of whingeing cretins and get behind this democratic decision.

ftfy

[Whorty]

Can't imagine why

Brendan O'Neill: Asking the Irish to vote again on the Lisbon treaty is arrogant, insulting and undemocratic | Opinion | The Guardian




Don't forget the Loser's Vote all the remainers are campaigning for.

Typical disinformation from the leave side. The 2 Irish votes were not the same. Linky . Linking as you do to biased commentaries, which of all things includes a quote from that idiot Galloway, doesn't constitute the truth. It constitutes someones opinion and your'e too dumb to see it as such.

The first vote was on the standard Lisbon Treaty. The Irish rejected this. The second vote included amendments to that Treaty that, given the massive swing to acceptance clearly shows the Irish people are not as zealot as you leavers. The Irish were not anti EU or didn't want to leave the EU.

Rubbish that you linked to suggest the Irish voters were forced to change their mind and that the second vote was simply a re-run of the first. It was not. Following the changes put forward in the second Treaty the Irish people decided, by a large majority, to accept this.

You Brexidiots wouldn't understand how this works though. You are so blinkered in your hatred and fear of the devils and phantoms in the EU that you will vote against them whatever they offered. If they came back and said we could stay 'in' but with all the benefits and changes that we want to feel like we're out, you'd still vote to leave, because it's not the regulations you're against, it fundamentally is your little England xenophobia that drives you.

We can see by the Irish votes that they are sensible and open minded. They voted no, asked for changes to allow them to vote yes, got these changes and duly voted yes.

Next ....

[WTFH]

Its no-deal all the way.

Isn't that what JRM, BoJo, et al want?

[GreenMirror]

No, but I would prefer a cross-party team to be doing the Brexit negotiations on behalf of the country. The referendum was not based on parties, the process of exiting should have been done outwith party politics.

I agree with that.

However the EU is not interested in negotiation. Its no-deal all the way.

[GreenMirror]

You guys really are dumb and believe all this propaganda.

Our government, along with all the other governments in the EU, were elected by it's people (that's you an I, if you're not sure) to make decisions on our behalf. One such decision our government made was to help shape and define the rules that govern the running of the EU (we have a veto, so any rules we don't like we can stop from becoming law). The elected governments set the democratic rules of how the EU will run. One such rule was that each democratic country would have MEPs represent them in the European Parliament. The other rule is that those democratically elected MEPs will vote (democratically) on our behalf for the head of the EU.

Now, admittedly, I've given a big clue in the above and used the 'D' word quite a bit, but pray, do tell, which part of this Democratic process that we have signed up to (we gave our MPs the right to govern on our behalf) isn't democratic?

Like many Brexitidiots you think democracy means you get to vote on every decision, but that is not how it works. We vote representatives (MPs, MEPs, local councilors) to make decisions on our behalf. If you don't like that, then campaign for a new way for our democracy to work. Until then, STFU you winging idiots.

The EU is entitled to do what it wants. The UK is out. Thank God.

[GreenMirror]

Scary thing is, you actually believe this rubbish.

The EU has form. About as democratic as Hitler.