Reply to: Employing someone in your house (Employing a Nanny)

[WTFH]

Historically it was entirely normal for a well-to-do family to have staff, and back then the woman certainly wouldn't even work. It's not common now but that's as much about affordability as culture. No real need to be judgemental just because you don't agree?

I understand that, but the request is for a contractor, not through an agent to reduce the costs, as cheap as possible, avoiding tax, and delivering an outstanding job.
Quality costs, and a role that is going to last more than 24 months (could be up to 18 years, who knows), that isn't a contractor, that's a permanent role.

[d000hg]

Ah, you want someone to do the parenting bits that you think aren't demanding but you don't want to do them yourselves as it's too demanding for you

Historically it was entirely normal for a well-to-do family to have staff, and back then the woman certainly wouldn't even work. It's not common now but that's as much about affordability as culture. No real need to be judgemental just because you don't agree?

[WTFH]

We are not even demanding as we are working from home, just wanted someone that know how to cook, likes children and know how to handle them.

Ah, you want someone to do the parenting bits that you think aren't demanding but you don't want to do them yourselves as it's too demanding for you

Mediocrity is the new norm these days.

Yes, it appears that can apply to work as well as parenting.

[d000hg]

As an outside option, you could perhaps take in a lodger and give them free room and board; they would be part of your household. Though this sounds like the setup to a porno to me. Do you prefer Swedish or German?

Problem is most nannies are people that couldn't get a job doing anything else.

I'm not sure that's true. I know quite a few teachers who have done it either after qualifying or when they want a year abroad or want to escape teaching.

My experience is that the government really doesn't want mums going back to work.

Not sure about that. If both parents work you get 30 hours free nursery care (from age 3) and there are childcare voucher schemes for private nursery which I think do some sort of tax rebate?

[Lance]

Surely the best idea is not to employ a nanny, but get one from an agency who is the employer.
I can’t believe they don’t exist, and will operate in the same fashion as a nursery just more expensive.

[ladymuck]

If you followed the thread it appears the thread starter wants childcare as cheap as possible.

Well if one will pay peanuts...

[SueEllen]

Why not go for a Norland Nanny? If you can afford £50k a year.

If you followed the thread it appears the thread starter wants childcare as cheap as possible.

[ladymuck]

Why not go for a Norland Nanny? If you can afford £50k a year.

[northernladuk]

Or you do what we did and recruit direct from the college..

At least you get the pick from the crop that way. When I was at Huddersfield College I went out with a girl doing NNEB and by god they were a vacant lot. That said, looking back I don't think I'd have let any of us in our Engineer course near a lathe either.

[eek]

Problem is most nannies are people that couldn't get a job doing anything else. Do an NNEB for a few years and hey presto you are a nanny. You are hardly picking from a pool of highly skilled and motivated professionals. You desire the high end of what is a pretty low market I am afraid. Gonna have to do a lot of searching to the get the right one as they good ones won't be on the market so need a good dose of luck.

Or you do what we did and recruit direct from the college..

[northernladuk]

We are not even demanding as we are working from home, just wanted someone that know how to cook, likes children and know how to handle them. It seems that all they wanted was to get paid and didn't care what job their were doing, some were glued to their phones. Seriously... saying that, I have seen similar behaviour from permanent employees..

Problem is most nannies are people that couldn't get a job doing anything else. Do an NNEB for a few years and hey presto you are a nanny. You are hardly picking from a pool of highly skilled and motivated professionals. You desire the high end of what is a pretty low market I am afraid. Gonna have to do a lot of searching to the get the right one as they good ones won't be on the market so need a good dose of luck.

[SueEllen]

If you are finding nannies are tulip then use a nursery or childminder.

Yes it will cost more but your childcare is regulated and if you seek recommendations from other parents locally you should get a good provider.

[Drei]

MSE has an explanation of the schemes available to reduce childcare costs in England - https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/fa...ree-childcare/

Thanks.

So far we ended going through like 10 nannies. A few wanted contracts, most wanted cash in hand and none of them could do the job... makes you wonder if we did the same thing.

We are not even demanding as we are working from home, just wanted someone that know how to cook, likes children and know how to handle them. It seems that all they wanted was to get paid and didn't care what job their were doing, some were glued to their phones. Seriously... saying that, I have seen similar behaviour from permanent employees.

I am doing a contract right now and they have these "nominations" for members of staff that deserve it... %95 of the people nominated are nominate because apparently they are doing their job, nothing beyond that, just because they can actually do the job they get paid to do. Mediocrity is the new norm these days.

[SueEllen]

Thanks everyone. I wasn't looking for a tax dodge since I paid my tax, I wanted to avoid double tax since it should be illegal. Americans can deduct childcare costs out of their tax return.

I think if I can get a registered nanny I can get £2 for every £8 paid, so that might cover the employer contribution.

MSE has an explanation of the schemes available to reduce childcare costs in England - https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/fa...ree-childcare/

[hairymouse]

If they don't like you or your children they can tell you to F off.

Not a problem because the people we employed liked us just fine because I am not a nitpiciking know it all. I can, and will tell you to F off.