For anyone interested, an extract from the sales brochure I was sent, name excluded:
I do see the crux of the issue as the commercial reality is labour supply to the end client, dressed up with a Statement of Work and an 80/20 payment split....
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That's good re the indemnity. It was one of the big issues I started to see post the private sector rollout with people asking for indemnities.
I do agree with other posts though regarding whether the approach originally highlighted is just a veneer and could be challenged by HMRC. It's...
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Spot on.
I was being charitable when I said about the OP being comfortable with it. It really depends on your risk tolerance. The number of times I had people trying to sell me EBTs and indeed one outfit tried to mandate a particularly dodgy setup when I was in the running for a contract...Last edited by ShandyDrinker; 26 January 2026, 13:12.
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fiisch I can neither confirm nor deny although glad it worked for you and you are/were comfortable with it.
Per jamesbrown's previous comment, ESM10010 is worth a read for anyone considering this model.
HMRC explicitly warns against "a labour supply contract... simply...
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Thanks very much for the replies so far. I thought there was something off.
Given that I don't know if any contractors on here are currently worked through them or that they frequent this site themselves, I'm not prepared to share it at this stage. What I will say is that I was approached...
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Outside IR35 consultancy model - genuine or papering over cracks?
Been approached about a role through a consultancy that uses what they call an "associate model" to place contractors outside IR35. Wanted to get the forum's view on whether this passes the smell test.
How it works:- You contract with them, not the end client (they're the "hirer")
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