Churchill Knight & Boox clients being investigated as Managed Service Companies

[GregRickshaw]

Those of us with Boox are also pleased. CK can set case law that helps us.

Be good if Boox had helped out in the first place

[Guy Incognito]

Might be a while off that yet as I don’t think a FTT sets case law. I am a lay person and could be wrong, of course.

I think you are correct, but CK have money for at least the first two appeals as I understand things.

[GregRickshaw]

I think you are correct, but CK have money for at least the first two appeals as I understand things.

At least that and more. I am not sure though if Ck and Boox cases are the same anymore, after the posting a few pages back we saw from a new Boox client.
Seems at this stage just CK going to FTT (next year expected) and the test cases are being agreed over the next few weeks.

[jamesbrown]

Might be a while off that yet as I don’t think a FTT sets case law. I am a lay person and could be wrong, of course.

Correct, no case law until UTTT and above, but the first one that gets to FTTT would presumably reach UTTT first too, assuming the funds are there (CK are making those noises) and there are still points to dispute (there will be, either way).

[ritwolf]

Can anyone share how long did it take to get a response from HMRC after submitting an appeal?

[Guy Incognito]

Can anyone share how long did it take to get a response from HMRC after submitting an appeal?

Weeks - they did them in alphabetical order by company name.

[dpw123]

Hey all,

I am a former Boox customer. Now with a different accountant.

I received a notice of decision saying that my company is liable on March 15. I have only just opened the letter today thus making any potential appeal I may send late. I was not checking the postbox as originally all the initial appeals and responses were going to and from Boox and it was just not on my radar. I am clearly not an MSC and have emails that should show that.

I am freaking out a bit by the face that I am late to make another appeal and what I should be doing as I am appealing on my own without Boox. Any advice would be appreciated.

[Fuzzynavel]

Hey all,

I am a former Boox customer. Now with a different accountant.

I received a notice of decision saying that my company is liable on March 15. I have only just opened the letter today thus making any potential appeal I may send late. I was not checking the postbox as originally all the initial appeals and responses were going to and from Boox and it was just not on my radar. I am clearly not an MSC and have emails that should show that.

I am freaking out a bit by the face that I am late to make another appeal and what I should be doing as I am appealing on my own without Boox. Any advice would be appreciated.

I found HMRC to be quite helpful at the individual staff member level and have had my case stood over. I followed the instructions on the letter and sent in paperwork to support my case with a detailed letter regarding the MSC legislation and how it didn't affect me. I also sent the letter recorded so that they would have to sign for delivery.

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I also phoned them every couple of days and spent hours on the phone in queues

It took a few weeks but eventually I got a reply.

[varuswan]

Hello all,
Im facing the same issue i received the notice from hmrc in Feb 2023 for tax year 2018 to 2020 . I used the boox accountancy firm.

Is there any whats app group where the matter is discussed.

[ritwolf]

I found HMRC to be quite helpful at the individual staff member level and have had my case stood over. I followed the instructions on the letter and sent in paperwork to support my case with a detailed letter regarding the MSC legislation and how it didn't affect me. I also sent the letter recorded so that they would have to sign for delivery.



I also phoned them every couple of days and spent hours on the phone in queues

It took a few weeks but eventually I got a reply.

What number did you call? I've emailed several times regarding Payment On Account but I haven't got any answer. If you could please share the phone number I'll try that as well.