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Churchill Knight & Boox clients being investigated as Managed Service Companies

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    Yes that was my understanding. I may as well give my cat a deadline.

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      Originally posted by Guy Incognito View Post
      Yes that was my understanding. I may as well give my cat a deadline.
      You may have better luck...

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        I don’t think they’ll reply by the deadline, but it will build a case for ineptitude by HMRC.

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          Originally posted by ExLuninKiwi View Post
          I don’t think they’ll reply by the deadline, but it will build a case for ineptitude by HMRC.
          The only deadline that matters is the one they've already met, I'm afraid.

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            If HMRC are not replying to letters requesting information in good time, I would assume that this would go toward demonstrating that they are incompetent, overstretched, and careless (which they are). I think most reasonable people would also find the demands, followed by no direct communication regarding appeals to be a display of negligence. Especially when there are many cases with processing errors.
            Last edited by ExLuninKiwi; 12 April 2023, 01:40.

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              Originally posted by ExLuninKiwi View Post
              If HMRC are not replying to letters requesting information in good time, I would assume that this would go toward demonstrating that they are incompetent, overstretched, and careless (which they are). I think most reasonable people would also find the demands, followed by no direct communication regarding appeals to be a display of negligence. Especially when there are many cases with processing errors.
              They aren’t presenting their case in the court of public opinion, it’s a FTTT, where the outcome depends on the facts. The cat analogy above is a good one. You should focus on the facts in your favour and forget about imposing fake deadlines on HMRC to respond. They will respond when they need to, which is now the FTTT.

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                A little update for those wondering if Chapter 10 ("new IR35") could be applied, which would take precedence over Chapter 9 (MSC):

                As per my reading of legislation and conversation with tax specialists, it is unlikely this happens as it would shift liability towards end clients or intermediary agencies... a whole new fight for HMRC.

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                  Those of you with CK will be pleased to know hostilities with the enemy are about to commence with some ammo in the guns.
                  Last edited by GregRickshaw; 17 April 2023, 12:25.

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                    Originally posted by GregRickshaw View Post
                    Those of you with CK will be pleased to know hostilities with the enemy are about to commence with some ammo in the guns.
                    Those of us with Boox are also pleased. CK can set case law that helps us.

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                      Originally posted by Guy Incognito View Post

                      Those of us with Boox are also pleased. CK can set case law that helps us.
                      Might be a while off that yet as I don’t think a FTT sets case law. I am a lay person and could be wrong, of course.
                      Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
                      Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.

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