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[ritwolf]

I've just read this, what do you mean here by making a profit? Can you give an example please? I'm trying to better understand what is that Boox did to be deemed as MSCP...

[ritwolf]

Speaking with tax specialists and insurance companies, it's almost a given that HMRC will appeal to a higher court if they lose.

If that's the case, and reading about the contributions made to CK and the DK group (for Boox), what's the point in winning the FTT if CK or Boox have no funds...

[ritwolf]

For the 2018-2019 I understand thay they have till end 2023 to issue them. Is this right?...

[ritwolf]

I really don't understand how can they just throw up figures that then you have to correct. This will affect so many lives and people's health, and they don't seem to care. I know it's affecting me a great deal.

[ritwolf]

I've asked about this and got the following answer:

- If HMRC wins the test cases and the grounds of your appeal are mostly the same, the case would be rejected and not go to FTT. So, generic templated appeals could be a huge problem if this is true. Can anyone confirm?

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[ritwolf]

Also, and forgive me if I'm asking so many questions (hopefuly it helps someone else):

- Before receiving the determinations, can you ask HMRC already for a breakdown (as per their informative letter), or do you see any problem in this? Could it trigger anything else?

[ritwolf]

Thank you for your comments, it's been quite a few sleepless nights since I received the letter.

Speaking with a friend, he tells me he doesn't think HMRC would go against so many people in bulk unless it's an almost-won case for them, meaning that they have investigated every possible...

[ritwolf]

If the fees are still the same, does it not proof that the fees are independent from the services provided by the company?...

[ritwolf]

HMRC states, according to Section 61B(2) ITEPA 2003:

a. Benefits financially on an ongoing basis from the provision of the services of the individual

Shouldn't it be the opposite? The accountancy firm has fees that you pay as long as the company is active (in my case, I never...

[ritwolf]

What does the community think about the following arguments:

- If you continue paying accountancy fees even when the company was not trading, that proofs that the accountancy firm (deemed as MSCP) does not benefit from the end clients on an ongoing basis

- Given the same...

[ritwolf]

Thanks, found the conversation regarding this...

[ritwolf]

Just in case someone understands and can explain:

- Effective tomorrow, BOOX Limited is dissolved: https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/10004465

- The parent company is still active: https://find-and-update.company-info...n.service.gov....

[ritwolf]

I've spoken with a few specialists and, as you mentioned, they also think that HMRC could reject the appeal because it's so close to the 50% threshold. I don't understand, how can they actually reject the legislation because it's "close" to the number, and then be so strict when it suits them...

[ritwolf]

I think your appeal hasn't been rejected but stood over....

[ritwolf]

jamesbrown - is this still valid? if so, do you know what period would you have to apply it for (e.g. 2018-2019 tax year or natural year...). I checked for the period 2018-2019 and the payments are just below half (around 48-49% of the amounts invoiced ex VAT.

Basically wanted to know if...

[ritwolf]

Do you know why was your appeal rejected and not stood over like many others are posting here? I guess the template shared by Boox is the same they'd have used to submit your appeal as well......

[ritwolf]

Sorry for my ignorance but, why do you need a second appeal? I thought one appeal against the determination of the company being deemed as MSC was enough......

[ritwolf]

I've just read this. Do you mean you'd have preferred to submit a less detailed and more generic appeal?...

[ritwolf]

According to the following article:

https://www.contractoruk.com/news/00...ll%20Knight%3F

The MSCP is NOT the party liable for the debt (or at least not liable in the first instance).

So, what's in it for Boox to not give up and defend themselves and prove HMRC...

[ritwolf]

Thank you, yes I'm reading and hopefully will be up to speed over the weekend. I just wanted to ask, should I appeal now that I have received the first letter, or wait for the determination letter with the amounts they are claiming?

I just wanted to know if it's ok for now to wait until...