Hoey - Court of Appeal legal fees

[mrs t]

The anti Big Group/WTT rhetoric is getting a tad tedious.

[dammit chloe]

I see you've got a total of £5155 after 2 weeks of berating and insulting everyone. If you want to actually raise some money may I suggest a different approach

Perhaps they should set up TheEvenBiggerGroup and make lots of promises for 2 Grand plus monthly subscription. I don't see the comments as berating though. They simply point out how little has been achieved by people that have previous in this regard.

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[Krung Thep]

I see you've got a total of £5155 after 2 weeks of berating and insulting everyone. If you want to actually raise some money may I suggest a different approach

The approach I'd suggest is for those with open years and out of scope of the Loan Charge, to contribute to something tangible instead of squandering money in pursuit of fools gold.

[eek]

This is the sort of reply I'd expect from a cult member mentality.

So you say its all peanuts? in that case why dont you put £864 on to Hoey's fighting fund as it will benefit you as well as everyone else. After all its peanuts.

Somehow I doubt I'll see £864 appear on the GoFundMe donations list

I see you've got a total of £5155 after 2 weeks of berating and insulting everyone. If you want to actually raise some money may I suggest a different approach

[luxCon]

cult mentality

£15+vat per month for 4 years is only £864, so hardly much of a sunk cost.And it's peanuts compared to the tax we'd have to pay.

At least we won't be relying on gofundme to pay the lawyers!

This is the sort of reply I'd expect from a cult member mentality.

So you say its all peanuts? in that case why dont you put £864 on to Hoey's fighting fund as it will benefit you as well as everyone else. After all its peanuts.

Somehow I doubt I'll see £864 appear on the GoFundMe donations list

[blackfriar]

£15+vat per month for 4 years is only £864, so hardly much of a sunk cost.And it's peanuts compared to the tax we'd have to pay.

At least we won't be relying on gofundme to pay the lawyers!

It's not only gofundme. Members of the association contribute directly, like we have to get Hoey progressed through FTT and UTT.

What use is that WTT pool of money if there's no legal avenues to pursue? Would seem like WTT should at least explain their positioning on Hoey to it's members and how their own plans depend or not on Hoey. I'm no legal expert but if what Seleos says is true then not appealing the UTT Hoey outcome will allow HMRC to pursue pre-DR taxes, unless WTT or someone else really have a secret weapon.

[ns1]

£15+vat per month for 4 years is only £864, so hardly much of a sunk cost.And it's peanuts compared to the tax we'd have to pay.

At least we won't be relying on gofundme to pay the lawyers!

[DealorNoDeal]

Quite. So why take that approach when the alternative, a formal Association under which those involved only get paid IF they take the case forward; where any surplus is returned to those who contributed to it and where no VAT is charged (nor invoices raised) for those contributions? Arguably it is a bit late for pertinent questions but if not now, when?

Possibly too late.

After sticking with something for several years, it's all too easy to fall into the
sunk cost trap

I wonder how much money WTT have set aside as a litigation fund?

[Saleos]

It's a situation where the company's financial interests and the clients' interests are not well aligned.

What benefits the company is:
a) keeping the fees rolling in for as long as possible
AND
b) minimising outgoings (eg. paying lawyers, funding legal actions)

Personally, I wouldn't like relying wholly on trust and good faith. (Especially in this murky tax world)

Quite. So why take that approach when the alternative, a formal Association under which those involved only get paid IF they take the case forward; where any surplus is returned to those who contributed to it and where no VAT is charged (nor invoices raised) for those contributions? Arguably it is a bit late for pertinent questions but if not now, when?

[DealorNoDeal]

Its 'taking all the glory' plus VAT, all invoiced, straight into the firms balance sheet, corp tax paid, dividends declared

It's a situation where the company's financial interests and the clients' interests are not well aligned.

What benefits the company is:
a) keeping the fees rolling in for as long as possible
AND
b) minimising outgoings (eg. paying lawyers, funding legal actions)

Personally, I wouldn't like relying wholly on trust and good faith. (Especially in this murky tax world)