Hoey - Court of Appeal legal fees

[starstruck]

I know for a definite fact that it does exist but I can't see WTT sharing it when someone else could fluff it or take all the glory.

If Hoey succeeds, great.

If Hoey fails, BG will be perfectly fine.

Pure fantasy I fear!

[dammit chloe]

I know for a definite fact that it does exist but I can't see WTT sharing it when someone else could fluff it or take all the glory.

If Hoey succeeds, great.

If Hoey fails, BG will be perfectly fine.

To think they have had the winning hand all this time and could have helped save a lot of misery by actually going to court when they had a better opportunity. SMH.

[ns1]

From memory the only exception would be if the fight was continued on substantially different grounds, although that would require an ace up the sleeve from WTT that I've seen no evidence of.

If such an ace existed, then sharing it with the Hoey team would appear to be the best path to a good result for everyone.

I know for a definite fact that it does exist but I can't see WTT sharing it when someone else could fluff it or take all the glory.

If Hoey succeeds, great.

If Hoey fails, BG will be perfectly fine.

[GoneSurfing]

Like:

If Hoey loses, where does that leave us?

Unless Hoey is appealed: with Follower Notices for users of the Penfolds/Hamilton and similar pre-DR schemes and an additional 50% penalty if you continue to contest.

From memory the only exception would be if the fight was continued on substantially different grounds, although that would require an ace up the sleeve from WTT that I've seen no evidence of.

If such an ace existed, then sharing it with the Hoey team would appear to be the best path to a good result for everyone.

[Krung Thep]

For those with open years out of scope of the Loan Charge, not only is the only thing worth contributing to, it is essential to do so. It is a golden opportunity to defeat HMRC, don’t let it slip by. To date, the contributions have been pitiful so I urge all those that can to start donating.

[blackfriar]

Like:

If Hoey loses, where does that leave us?

My Hoey and legal team already said they would appeal the UTT outcome whether they win or not. That's reason the gofundme page was started, to have funds in place for either outcome, I think there's a 28 day period from outcome of UTT to lodge an appeal. If Hoey lost that appeal too, I'm not sure if that would be the end game or not?

[DealorNoDeal]

WTT/BG clients need to ask serious questions about what they've been paying for and if there is a case to reclaim and divert their subs towards something that could actually help them rather than the balance sheet of the firm.

Like:

If Hoey loses, where does that leave us?

[luxCon]

PPI type mis-selling

Which begs the question...

What would be the point of WTT/BG even taking a case to the FTT now?

Wouldn't they need to have a substantially different argument to Hoey?

*** EXACTLY THAT ***

WTT/BG clients need to ask serious questions about what they've been paying for and if there is a case to reclaim and divert their subs towards something that could actually help them rather than the balance sheet of the firm.


This is rather like PPI mis-selling , and requires PPI type claims action now

[Saleos]

Which begs the question...

What would be the point of WTT/BG even taking a case to the FTT now?

Wouldn't they need to have a substantially different argument to Hoey?

A decision from the UT on the application of a point of law is binding on the FTT unless the facts can be distinguished. So HOW it is argued doesn’t matter.

[DealorNoDeal]

WebberG will be better placed to answer that. But in their group update in Feb 2019 they said “We would expect to be heading for a substantive hearing in early to mid-2020” and in that of April 2019 “ The anticipation is still that we will not have a substantive hearing until Q1 2020”.

Since those updates Hoey has been in the FTT, received their decision, appealed, had that heard by the UT and is almost certain to get a decision from them before the WTT/BG case is heard by the FTT.

We now near the end of Q4 without any publicised date for the WTT/BG hearing. A hearing at a Tribunal that will be bound by the decision of the UT in Hoey on the same points of law (s684(7A), PAYE Credit, ToAA).

Which begs the question...

What would be the point of WTT/BG even taking a case to the FTT now?

Wouldn't they need to have a substantially different argument to Hoey?