Ukip! Ukip! Ukip!

[tractor]

...

Germany's AfD are reasonably similar although most of their core members seem to be 'intellectuals'

So quite clearly, the current policies are breeding extremists, left or right doesn't matter. It should follow then that there is something wrong with mainstream policy should it not? And if there is, why shoul anyone support it?

[Zero Liability]

Yes because the UK becoming an independent country like Australia and Canada with their managed immigration policies is so Nazi

Yeah, you need a pair of earplugs there to even sleep at night, to drown out all the goosestepping, didn't you know?

[darmstadt]

So quite clearly, the current policies are breeding extremists, left or right doesn't matter. It should follow then that there is something wrong with mainstream policy should it not? And if there is, why shoul anyone support it?

Maybe its History Repeating...Jarrow March against unemployment and poverty in the 30's, inflation, unemployment and poverty in Germany in the 30's and people looked then at the extremes as the mainstream wasn't working.

[darmstadt]

Mind you, the BNP lost their seats

[malvolio]

Was it ever any better? Maybe you are not as ancient as me but if you compare them with past leaders, the current lot don't seem all that bad.

A few that did seem ok, David Steel, John Smith, er, um, er. That's about it really. Sir Robert Peel was quite good too apparently but that was a bit before even my time.

Steel - too weak and too arrogant to be a real leader. Smith - unreconstructed left winger union slave with good PR support (sound familiar?).

McDonald didn't do too badly, Churchill had a reasonable success rate, Thatcher did way more good than most give her credit for but, more importantly, there were serious, committed players in her Cabinet, as well as that of Callaghan, Wilson and Heath. It all went wrong when Bliar joined in and turned Politics into a career option.

IMHO the only current option with both balls and conviction is Theresa May.

[Doggy Styles]

Yes because the UK becoming an independent country like Australia and Canada with their managed immigration policies is so Nazi

Without calling each other racists?

Australians more grown up than Europeans?

[Flashman]

Without calling each other racists?

Australians more grown up than Europeans?

Shocking but true!

Meanwhile in downtown London

Tower Hamlets

......I was, for obvious reasons, at both omnishambles. We were asked to attend the Mile End Leisure centre at 2pm, Sunday for the council counts with the European count commencing at 4pm. We were let in at 3pm and then the chaos started.

‘Any checks on people attending soon collapsed, particularly when the Supreme Ruler, Mayor Lutfur, was instructing his fan club from across London to walk in and enjoy the panto.

‘However, ex Councillor Kabir Ahmed (Tower Hamlets First, Weavers ward) was barred from entering the count as he had revealed details of the first figures on his Facebook page. Presumably he stayed at home in Gants Hill, Redbridge.

‘There were arguments, threats, and chaos at the counting tables. Tower Hamlets First supporters were challenging vote after vote, forcing supporters of other candidates away from the tables. They often made their points ( excuse the pun) with pencils and pens, against ballot papers. The supreme ruler smiled, whilst checking town hall staff were not stopping his supporters from doing exactly what they wanted.

‘Former Cllr Mohammed Shahid Ali (defeated Mile End) was bawling in Bangla down a mobile phone at a counting table. He was asked by a (female) officer to stop and he shouted that she ( emphasise she) had no right to tell him to stop doing anything and that she (emphasise she) should go away. I drew this to the attention of the returning officer and Shahid Ali then needed to be restrained from attacking me.......

How is it that countries like Roumania and Bulgaria who have problems with organised crime can organise free and fair elections but London struggles?

[DodgyAgent]

Shocking but true!

Meanwhile in downtown London

Tower Hamlets



How is it that countries like Roumania and Bulgaria who have problems with organised crime can organise free and fair elections but London struggles?

EUobserver / Threat of voter fraud haunts EU vote in Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia

[d000hg]

More likely most thinking people in Europe have twigged that a Federated EU is not where they want to go so are voting for anyone that promises to stop it happening. Whether they can or not is, of course, a whole other issue.

They're only a minority.

[zemoxyl]

More likely most thinking people in Europe have twigged that a Federated EU is not where they want to go so are voting for anyone that promises to stop it happening. Whether they can or not is, of course, a whole other issue.

They're only a minority.

Ever wonder why there's no German equivalent of UKIP ?