Ukip posterboy suspended after claiming 'Miliband not British'

[SueEllen]

There is a notion of being English SueEllen.

if you think they were english, especially given his views when he got here, well, that's cool, that's up to you. It's ok to disagree.

But they weren't english, they were naturalised, and there is a whole world of difference, which we both know.

English != British

Go tell the Scots, Welsh, Cornish and Protestant Northern Irish they aren't British.

And UKIP isn't the "English independence party"

[Ticktock]

English != British

Go tell the Scots, Welsh, Cornish and Protestant Northern Irish they aren't British.

And UKIP isn't the "English independence party"

The Northern Irish are not British - they are not part of Great Britain.

[SueEllen]

The Northern Irish are not British - they are not part of Great Britain.

They are part of the UK.

And be careful what you say to the Catholic ones.

[Ticktock]

They are part of the UK.

And be careful what you say to the Catholic ones.

Yes, they are part of the UK, not part of Britain.

[SaltyLevels]

English != British

Go tell the Scots, Welsh, Cornish and Protestant Northern Irish they aren't British.

And UKIP isn't the "English independence party"

Apart from the obvious error, apologies, I meant British. Culturally, we are different, than let's say Israel, or, Syria, or, say, Croatia, etc, etc.

Northern Ireland are part of United Kingdom I believe.

Anyway, it's a circular argument and I am out. I stand by what I said, in that he's right, technically. I didn't once say I agreed with his actual pov, quite the opposite really.

[SueEllen]

Anyway, it's a circular argument and I am out. I stand by what I said, in that he's right, technically. I didn't once say I agreed with his actual pov, quite the opposite really.

You never told me what these "British genes" are.

[sasguru]

. I stand by what I said, in that he's right, technically. I didn't once say I agreed with his actual pov, quite the opposite really.

I'm confused, how is he right technically? Milliband is technically British is he not?
Unless your argument is "a dog born in a stable is not a horse"?

[sasguru]

Where do these cretins appear from?

[SaltyLevels]

I'm confused, how is he right technically? Milliband is technically British is he not?
Unless your argument is "a dog born in a stable is not a horse"?

Look, the argument was he was technically british, by location, not parents. I can't see how this is in anyway shape or form wrong.

His parents were Polish/Belgian Polish Jews. The came here as refugees, then were given naturalisation as a subject of the king.

If you can't make the distinction, that's fine. I can.

SueEllen, I am not getting into this argument. we are not, by our genes, jewish in our genealogical make up, not in any great part. as for the notion of our cultural identities being different, well I would say that was a gimmee.

It's ok to disagree.

[sasguru]

Look, the argument was he was technically british, by location, not parents. I can't see how this is in anyway shape or form wrong.

His parents were Polish/Belgian Polish. The came here as refugees, then were given naturalisation as a subject of the king.

If you can't make the distinction, that's fine. I can.

SueEllen, I am not getting into this argument. we are not, by our genes, jewish in our genealogical make up, not in any great part. as for the notion of our cultural identities being different, well I would say that was a gimmee.

It's ok to disagree.

Ah so you do subscribe to the notion that "a dog born in a stable is not a horse".