Ukip posterboy suspended after claiming 'Miliband not British'

[SueEllen]

No, they weren't. They were not British and rightly proud to be Jewish Poles. They were never granted citizenship, they were granted naturalisation. They were never citizens.

I am stopping now, for you're just going around in circles.

My argument, from the get go, is that he's British by location, not genes and that as a view, is correct, factually. You can continue obfuscating with the strawman, but I am out of this one.

There are no such thing as British genes which is why people are picking holes in your arguments.

[speling bee]

No, they weren't. They were not British and rightly proud to be Jewish Poles. They were never granted citizenship, they were granted naturalisation. They were never citizens.

I am stopping now, for you're just going around in circles.

My argument, from the get go, is that he's British by location, not genes and that as a view, is correct, factually. You can continue obfuscating with the strawman, but I am out of this one.

Naturalisation is becoming a citizen.

From wikipedia:

Ralph Miliband
Ralph Miliband in 1958.jpg
Ralph Miliband in 1958
Born Adolphe Miliband
7 January 1924
Brussels, Belgium
Died 21 May 1994 (aged 70)
London, England
Citizenship Polish (1924-1948)
British (1948-1994)
Alma mater London School of Economics
Occupation University professor, Royal Navy sailor
Children David Miliband, Ed Miliband

[SaltyLevels]

Naturalisation is becoming a citizen.

From wikipedia:

Wikipedia. Hmm. Now go back and look at pre 1950...

Naturalisation was the act of giving foreign citizens the right of residency in a country.

There is a notion of being English SueEllen.

if you think they were english, especially given his views when he got here, well, that's cool, that's up to you. It's ok to disagree.

But they weren't english, they were naturalised, and there is a whole world of difference, which we both know.

[Mich the Tester]

**** me, rational thought. Are you drunk?

He's in the Delirium Cafe in Brussels, blowing his 25% margin on our pro-EU trolling for the Herman van Rompuy Superstate Foundation.

I must say DA's right though.

[speling bee]

Wikipedia. Hmm. Now go back and look at post 1950...

Naturalisation was the act of giving foreign citizens the right of residency in a country.

There is a notion of being English SueEllen.

if you think they were english, especially given his views when he got here, well, that's cool, that's up to you. It's ok to disagree.

But they weren't english, they were naturalised, and there is a whole world of difference, which we both know.

Seriously, mate. Why are you insisting that Raph Miliabnd was not a British citizen? It's a factual error and very silly of you.

[speling bee]

Anyway. Enough! I have work to do. I wish you all well.

[SaltyLevels]

Seriously, mate. Why are you insisting that Raph Miliabnd was not a British citizen? It's a factual error and very silly of you.

He wasn't, and never was. He was a naturalised subject of the crown, as it was back then. Might be different now, but back then, you only got naturalised. Simple as that really. I wouldn't get into the name calling just yet. We disagree, and that's fine. I am happy to hold my position, you hold yours. Honestly, that's cool. But check about what happened in the post war years regarding the naturalisation of foreign citizens before the name calling hey.

[hyperD]

Anyway. Enough! I have work to do. I wish you all well.

Come back Old Greg! Please!!!! Beg beg beg!

[sasguru]

I think we can summarise SaltyDick's argument as

A dog born in a stable is not a horse

HTH.

[TheFaQQer]

He is British by parents, because his parents were British. Easy one.

They weren't British. They hated Britain. I read it in the Daily Mail.