I used to get on the A19 north at Stockton, always really hated that junction.
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144mph speeding A19 drivers given suspended jail terms
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Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishing -
Originally posted by scooterscot View PostThe lead driver should have pleaded innocent, and demonstrated the car was safe to drive at that speed.
Also, it doesn't really matter a damn how safe the car is to drive at that speed. The important questions are how safe the driver is, how safe the road is, and how safe the other people using the road are.Comment
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Originally posted by NickFitz View PostDon't see how he could have claimed to be innocent - even if it was safe to drive at that speed. it was still illegal.
Also, it doesn't really matter a damn how safe the car is to drive at that speed. The important questions are how safe the driver is, how safe the road is, and how safe the other people using the road are.
Dangerous driving attracts a higher sentence than speeding so the police went for that. Rally drivers approach high speeds on roads in far less condition than the A19, but is it considered dangerous?
I recall a case in fife where a driver got done for dangerously driving his bmw m3, again 140mph+ on the M9. The judge threw the case out when the defendant had a representative from bmw testify that it was indeed safe to drive the car at that speed. Because of double jeopardy law the police could not charge him again with the lesser charge of speeding."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostI understand the emotion. However the law is reason free from passion.
So, how should they have proved that the driving at that speed on that road wasn't dangerous?Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.Comment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostI recall a case in fife where a driver got done for dangerously driving his bmw m3, again 140mph+ on the M9. The judge threw the case out when the defendant had a representative from bmw testify that it was indeed safe to drive the car at that speed. Because of double jeopardy law the police could not charge him again with the lesser charge of speeding.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.Comment
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Originally posted by DirtyDog View PostDriving above the speed limit on that stretch of road is dangerous. Driving at double the speed limit on that road is dangerous.
So, how should they have proved that the driving at that speed on that road wasn't dangerous?"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostIt's dangerous because you say so? Is this to be the prosecutions argument? I'll be the first to admit my arguments are as strong as a paper bathtub, but that reasoning dons't fly by me.
Motorways and autobahns have slip-roads to remove these sources of danger.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostIt's dangerous because you say so? Is this to be the prosecutions argument? I'll be the first to admit my arguments are as strong as a paper bathtub, but that reasoning dons't fly by me.
The combination of those factors would be enough to show that driving in excess of the speed limit would be dangerous. Trying to argue that it isn't dangerous, based on the assumption that they were driving a BMW, is ridiculous.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.Comment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostI understand the emotion. However the law is reason free from passion.Comment
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Originally posted by NickFitz View PostWhat emotion? I stated that driving at that speed was illegal, and that even if one ignores that fact, there are many more factors than the car's capabilities to be taken into account when considering the putative safety of the situation. Limited scope for hysterics theremerely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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