UK leaves EU?

[darmstadt]

It would be interesting to compare this report in the before and after stages:

Government delays EU immigration report because it is too positive - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

David Cameron shelves migration report amid lack of evidence - FT.com

[Mich the Tester]

It depends on which you ask. UKIP is keen on work permits, so for the high skilled end of the market the status quo would remain as is.

UKIP may have that policy; is this shared by the Dutch populists or the German or Spanish populists?

[Zero Liability]

UKIP may have that policy; is this shared by the Dutch populists or the German or Spanish populists?

Right, I get what you mean now - I thought you meant if they were to adopt similar measures to what the anti-immigration advocates in the UK propose.

[darmstadt]

Another image to do with what you will:

[Paddy]

Given a choice between being a British Citizen and being a European Citizen, which would you choose?

Personally I don't feel any more "British" than I do European, so if it came to it I'd rather be an EU citizen. Trouble is, that is dependent on being a citizen of an EU country. So if it came to the UK leaving the EU, and consequently my leaving the UK, how could I keep my EU citizenship?

There is nothing left to feel British about

Trains and water belong to the French and Germans.

Government run by the bankers, bankers are .... I dare not say.

Over half of Londoners not born in the UK

Only worked with two indigenous Brits in the past five years

[xoggoth]

Eh?

2011 United Kingdom
Country of birth Population
United Kingdom United Kingdom 5,175,677
etc

Not what the BBC/Guardian are reporting:

The French consulate in London estimates between 300,000 and 400,000 French citizens live in the British capital
BBC News - London, France's sixth biggest city

An astonishing 273,654 German-born people are now living here
Britain's German-born population prefers life under the radar | UK news | The Guardian

the total number of Irish immigrants has actually decreased to 407,000.
BBC News - Irish immigrants on the decline in England and Wales

According to a recent report in El Mundo, the number of officially registered Spanish residents in the UK jumped from 57,350 at the end of 2009 to 73,659 by the end of 2012, although the real number is estimated to be 150,000.
The new Spanish armada is on its way - Telegraph

Poss. the German figure expanded by kids of British troops in Germany but the British is presumably overestimated for similar reasons.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Another image to do with what you will:

Does welfare include state pension?

[Lockhouse]

I vote UKIP, it's not about the money. I'd rather be poorer and out of the EU.

[Zero Liability]

I vote UKIP, it's not about the money. I'd rather be poorer and out of the EU.

Besides, from the looks of it that picture only concerns the direct costs of the EU budget. But I am of a similar mind.

[xoggoth]

Another image to do with what you will:

Another rather irrelevant figure, given that nobody here has ever said that direct expenditure to the EU budget is significant.

What we are concerned about is that some of those bigger bubbles already contain a significant EU related element too and that proportion, unless we take effective action, will grow. Education for example - in the 12 months to June 2012, 25.9 per cent had a foreign born mother. Not all EU, true, but it's certainly likely to be a significant factor. What is it going to be like finding a place for our kids in 4 years time unless we invest heavily?