Big global warming meeting in Canada

[BlasterBates]

Voila - Satellite temp no fiddling just as it is....no temperature stations near heating pipes.

[EternalOptimist]

[Doggy Styles]

It's a well established fact that data quoted by AGW deniers is all made up.

Look here and here and here instead.

Oh, and here as well.

[EternalOptimist]

Fire and Ice

a brief history of climate fear

[pjclarke]

And, to answer the actual question, here is the 18 year trend in all 4 major datasets. Spot the outlier?

[BlasterBates]

Nothing can change the fact that the temps are now flat

I will conclude this discussion with the following quote from a German article:

Thus global warming has stopped – and has done so even while CO2 emissions have increased unhindered. - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.gqAVsYM6.dpuf

http://notrickszone.com/

[pjclarke]

So the discussion ends on a lie.

Suit yourself.

[hyperD]

So the discussion ends on a lie.

There was never any discussion on this board.

It was simply you cutting and pasting from RealClimate with your link pornage gun splattering any dissent from the CAGW meme. There was no ceding of any points, no acceptance of any alternative viewpoint, no discussions of things such as the spiralling costs of our energy infrastructure due to the impact of windmills and the kneejerk panic from government of installing STOR to redress the obvious energy imbalance when the coal powered stations are decommissioned, ironically leading to more CO2 emissions due to inefficient diesel generated power.

No debating, no engaging discussions, nothing.

Just more rebuttals, more snarks, more pious condescending cut 'n' paste and mocking.

And as you said yourself, you are weary of the politics of CAGW, as a kind of half hearted dismissal, and yet you have concluded that you are not passionate about this, as you see no way out of this so called grant winning "catastrophe", and yet ironically it is the politics that will end this obscene amount of tax payers wealth wasted that has distracted from real causes that could have helped humanity.

This has never been about the science, this has always, as has been with many other doomsday scenarios, been about the money, and you have never in any of your posts ever acknowledged this fact.

As a man in his middle age I would have expected something wiser, but you seem to have swallowed the blue pill and have accepted unequivocally the argumentum ad verecundiam directive.

[original PM]

But there may well be new habitats available if the snow level or permafrost is at a higher altitude. I'm not convinced that a rise in temperatures is in itself a great problem, but social attitudes, especially toward migration, might make it a bigger problem than necessary.

“The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem. Do you understand"

Capn Jack Sparrow!

[DodgyAgent]

There was never any discussion on this board.

It was simply you cutting and pasting from RealClimate with your link pornage gun splattering any dissent from the CAGW meme. There was no ceding of any points, no acceptance of any alternative viewpoint, no discussions of things such as the spiralling costs of our energy infrastructure due to the impact of windmills and the kneejerk panic from government of installing STOR to redress the obvious energy imbalance when the coal powered stations are decommissioned, ironically leading to more CO2 emissions due to inefficient diesel generated power.

No debating, no engaging discussions, nothing.

Just more rebuttals, more snarks, more pious condescending cut 'n' paste and mocking.

And as you said yourself, you are weary of the politics of CAGW, as a kind of half hearted dismissal, and yet you have concluded that you are not passionate about this, as you see no way out of this so called grant winning "catastrophe", and yet ironically it is the politics that will end this obscene amount of tax payers wealth wasted that has distracted from real causes that could have helped humanity.

This has never been about the science, this has always, as has been with many other doomsday scenarios, been about the money, and you have never in any of your posts ever acknowledged this fact.

As a man in his middle age I would have expected something wiser, but you seem to have swallowed the blue pill and have accepted unequivocally the argumentum ad verecundiam directive.

Well said and quite beautifully written. PJ Clarke is a brainwashing zealot or he is a stooge for maintaining the integrity of the climate change industry.