Greed is Good!

[sasguru]

I am trying to make the point that the problem has nothing to do with the rich it is how the poor are treated. Your "left wing" argument (sorry, cliche) that problems are to do with inequality is misleading and implies that it is because the rich should be pulled back.
This is a red herring. In Denmark and Sweden they still have rich people but the reason they have less crime and the poor are better looked after is to do with how redistribution is dealt with.
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You're not thinking clearly.
Aren't the rich being "pulled back" in Denmark and Sweden by "redistribution" i.e. higher taxes?

[vetran]

In what sense am I delusional? Because I think I'm cleverer than you?
Could that not be an objective truth?
If you were to bet your life on it, which way would you go?

well if it was the overloaded balloon test I'm pretty sure everyone would sacrifice you first, though maybe some would throw themselves out voluntarily to escape your bile.

[sasguru]

well if it was the overloaded balloon test I'm pretty sure everyone would sacrifice you first, though maybe some would throw themselves out voluntarily to escape your bile.

My bile is reserved for those who deserve it. I don't suffer fools gladly.

[vetran]

My bile is reserved for those who deserve it. I don't suffer fools gladly.

avoid the mirror!

[sasguru]

avoid the mirror!

Pathetic, worthy of my 4-year old.

[sasguru]

You're not thinking clearly.
Aren't the rich being "pulled back" in Denmark and Sweden by "redistribution" i.e. higher taxes?

Well Dodgy I'm waiting ....

[OwlHoot]

... Unless what you actually mean is that I hold a different opinion from your own and that is enough for you to label me as being of below average intelligence.

Hehe! That's about the size of it

[doodab]

I am trying to make the point that the problem has nothing to do with the rich it is how the poor are treated. Your "left wing" argument (sorry, cliche) that problems are to do with inequality is misleading and implies that it is because the rich should be pulled back.

My "argument" is simply a statement of a measurable fact, that inequality correlates with these things. Your desire to put a political spin on it is the only cliche in play here.

This is a red herring. In Denmark and Sweden they still have rich people but the reason they have less crime and the poor are better looked after is to do with how redistribution is dealt with.

You mean they have less inequality?

The problem with countries like Brazil is nothing to do with inequality it is to do with corruption and a failure to elevate the standards of living of the poor.

You mean they have more inequality?

Making crime and poverty an issue of equality enables governments and government institutions to step away from responsibility by demonising the rich.

But they are issues of inequality, not of absolute wealth. Simply making the poor a bit richer DOES NOT HELP if you make the rich a lot richer at the same time.

It's not a simple case of "demonizing the rich", again this is your ideological BS generator kicking in. To the extent that they have more power and either exert greater influence over or outright control governments (particularly in corrupt societies) they bear a greater share of the responsibility. It's invariably the "rich" who choose and run the government.

[sasguru]

Hehe! That's about the size of it

No its not. It's the lack of clear and logical thinking that makes me judge people as being of inferior intelligence.
Everyone but the least intelligent can relate to this, since we're all on a continuum.

[vetran]

Pathetic, worthy of my 4-year old.

so I'm getting down to your level only a couple of more years to go down!