The UK is corrupt

[Mich the Tester]

I tend to ageee with Op, we're just as corrupt as everyone else as it's human nature. We're just better at pretending not to be. Remember the MP who claimed 20k for moat clearance?

I thought that was quite stylish actually. Typical public school prank if you like. Much more enterprising than claiming for a new TV or a few extra pizzas.

[eek]

I thought that was quite stylish actually. Typical public school prank if you like. Much more enterprising than claiming for a new TV or a few extra pizzas.

I actually don't see what the problem was. He was explicit in what he was claiming for, the person who approved the claim was negligent in actually letting it through......

[doodab]

I thought that was quite stylish actually. Typical public school prank if you like. Much more enterprising than claiming for a new TV or a few extra pizzas.

I actually don't see what the problem was. He was explicit in what he was claiming for, the person who approved the claim was negligent in actually letting it through......

And lets face it, what use is a moat that's full of shopping trolleys? It just won't do.

[Mich the Tester]

And lets face it, what use is a moat that's full of shopping trolleys? It just won't do, what what.

ftfy

[masonryan]

I actually don't see what the problem was. He was explicit in what he was claiming for, the person who approved the claim was negligent in actually letting it through......

That's because the pen-pushers who are supposed to be monitoring the conduct of 'important' people usually are reluctant to do so even if that's what they're paid to do. Why? Because they are themselves unethical and only care about pleasing 'important' people to improve future prospects.

[Mich the Tester]

That's because the pen-pushers who are supposed to be monitoring the conduct of 'important' people usually are reluctant to do so even if that's what they're paid to do. Why? Because they are themselves unethical and only care about pleasing 'important' people to improve future prospects.

What's the rate?

[DodgyAgent]

I tend to ageee with Op, we're just as corrupt as everyone else as it's human nature. We're just better at pretending not to be. Remember the MP who claimed 20k for moat clearance? He thought that was perfectly acceptable as the system he was involved in, the UK government, made it perfectly acceptable. It was only the media and the public outcry that had any effect. Now they're just better at hiding their crimes.
If the government are so blasé about it, why should anyone else be different? At least in Africa they're openly corrupt!

I am sorry but you are wrong. Culturally we are less corrupt and we have laws and a free press that make corruption considerably more difficult than elsewhere.

[DodgyAgent]

That's because the pen-pushers who are supposed to be monitoring the conduct of 'important' people usually are reluctant to do so even if that's what they're paid to do. Why? Because they are themselves unethical and only care about pleasing 'important' people to improve future prospects.

example please

[Mich the Tester]

That's because the pen-pushers who are supposed to be monitoring the conduct of 'important' people usually are reluctant to do so even if that's what they're paid to do. Why? Because they are themselves unethical and only care about pleasing 'important' people to improve future prospects.

So why did we find out about the MP's expenses?

Is it to do with a free press, people who went off to speak to journalists and tell them what they'd seen going on, and then an investigation that resulted in prosecutions?

Yes, there's corruption in the UK, but in a really deeply corrupt country, you'd never have found out about this.

[doodab]

I tend to ageee with Op, we're just as corrupt as everyone else as it's human nature. We're just better at pretending not to be. Remember the MP who claimed 20k for moat clearance? He thought that was perfectly acceptable as the system he was involved in, the UK government, made it perfectly acceptable. It was only the media and the public outcry that had any effect. Now they're just better at hiding their crimes.
If the government are so blasé about it, why should anyone else be different? At least in Africa they're openly corrupt!

We're just as rational, self interested and prone to bouts of stupidity. That's not the same thing as corrupt though.