The UK is corrupt

[minestrone]

I am sorry but you are wrong. Culturally we are less corrupt and we have laws and a free press that make corruption considerably more difficult than elsewhere.

I'm sorry, did you just suggest the UK press are a force against corruption?

[Mich the Tester]

I'm sorry, did you just suggest the UK press are a force against corruption?

I don't think he did, actually, no. However, having a 'free press' does not mean that the press is uncorrupt or unbiased, simply that the press is free to report and free to express opinions. What you'll often see is the left winged media exposing corruption on the right, and the right winged media exposing corruption on the left. The sum of both makes it rather more difficult for any one to continue hiding corruption for very long than in a country where the press is controlled by some political group or the government. In that sense, a free press is a weapon against corruption.

[suityou01]

So why did we find out about the MP's expenses?

The tin foil hat sites suggested at the time that this was slight of hand to divert attention from what was really going on in the world. Sadly this usually involves reptilian races digging underground bunkers and mythical planets passing the Kuiper belt at speed and hurtling toward us, but the concept was not entirely lost on me.

[masonryan]

So why did we find out about the MP's expenses?

Is it to do with a free press, people who went off to speak to journalists and tell them what they'd seen going on, and then an investigation that resulted in prosecutions?

Yes, there's corruption in the UK, but in a really deeply corrupt country, you'd never have found out about this.

If we find out about it, we only do years after it takes place and have you noticed only a small handful of MPs got done for it. I can't think of a banker that has been jailed for their carnage.

Also as you say it was the press that piled the pressure and publicity on and only then a change occurred. The institutions themselves did not police themselves properly, which is my point.

[suityou01]

If we find out about it, we only do years after it takes place and have you noticed only a small handful of MPs got done for it. I can't think of a banker that has been jailed for their carnage.

Nick Leeson? He's quite (in)famous.

[scooterscot]

At least in some of those countries they are not pretentious about it. .

To true. I remember this one time when in Tanzania I was questioned by the local police. They let me on my way when I handed them $10 US. Corruption in the UK is far more arduous than it need be.

[suityou01]

Too true. I remember this one time when in Tanzania I was questioned by the local police. They let me on my way when I handed them $10 US. Corruption in the UK is far more arduous than it need be.

It's worse than I thought, even your posts are corrupted.

[masonryan]

The classic example in all this is Mr Savile.

[scooterscot]

It's worse than I thought, even your posts are corrupted.

I'm srue you'll rcoever.

[suityou01]

I'm srue you'll rcoever.

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