Calorie Counting

[cailin maith]

Or fruit, seeds and yoghurt which i am still working out if i can have under Paleo

There is a girl I know doing paleo and she swears by it. It's too restrictive for me, I think.

Let us know how you go on.

[socialworker]

The only way I have managed to lose any weight is by cutting portion sizes, esp carbs. I used to cook the trad proper dinner in the evening, lots of pasta and rice with meat and veg. Then we found just having the meat and veg but no or less carbs meant we still felt well fed , no indigestion, and weight started to come down. Avoiding all sugary treats too, if you just have the one biscuit it starts the cycle of craving for me. In some of the offices I work in, comfort eating is a way of life and people even spend their weekends baking for the office. They mean well and there is a risk of offending folk, but I have decided it is a risk that I just have to take.

[d000hg]

Refined carbs (of which alas your diet is full of) are the enemy...

Yeah OK, conservation of energy is just a lie. All the points raised may be valid but if I'm using 500-1000 more calories a day more than I intake (I am exercising almost daily) it can surely only go one way.

Eating less has historically worked, while fad diets come and go every few years and tend to contradict each other.

My diet is not that unhealthy (who said yesterday was typical), it's snacks which are the issue - a chocolate bar or bag of crisps can easily add 300 calories and if you do that at mid-morning and mid-afternoon and for a snack while watching TV, you're suddenly talking about 1000 you hadn't even thought of!

[RedSauce]

Yeah OK, conservation of energy is just a lie. All the points raised may be valid but if I'm using 500-1000 more calories a day more than I intake (I am exercising almost daily) it can surely only go one way.

Eating less has historically worked, while fad diets come and go every few years and tend to contradict each other.

My diet is not that unhealthy (who said yesterday was typical), it's snacks which are the issue - a chocolate bar or bag of crisps can easily add 300 calories and if you do that at mid-morning and mid-afternoon and for a snack while watching TV, you're suddenly talking about 1000 you hadn't even thought of!

It takes a lot more energy for your body to breakdown protein than carbs.

[cojak]

Well I am 5'8" but used to be 9-10stone so I am very slender when in shape.

In shape and lounging on sofas all day not expending energy.

The last time Mr C (also 5'8") was 9-10 stone, I was called out of work to his office because he had fainted mid-morning after cycling in.

If you expect to take the energy out then you have to put the energy in first. I now insist that he eats more than me and he is now 10.5 - 11 stone (still marginal but he promises to eat properly these days).

[mudskipper]

Maybe your body's gone into 'starvation mode'.

[darmstadt]

Bollocks to all that dieting crap, buying certain foods, cooking them (or not according to certain diets), following some ordered paln. Nah, do it the quick and easy way: once a year I do 4 weeks of heroin and wham, bam, thank you mam, I'm nice and slim again. Whatever you do, don't do the 'dexys diet' as you'll find that 24 hours is only actually 6 and everyone at work thinks you're a jabbering idiot whereas with the 'H diet' you are pretty laid back, admittedly sweating a bit and do tend to have the runs now and then (depending upon the purity) but work is just soooooooo easy.....

[NigelJK]

Lets cut through some of the jargon here.

'fad diets' is a construction of the food industry (and various fiscally greedy people). They are eating regimes. Everyone has a Diet, it's what you eat. The Atkins Diet is practically the only one that is a Diet, it is not intended to be used to lose a few pounds before your Holidays. It is intended to stop you eating things your body was never designed to eat (except on very rare occasions, like finding and being brave enough to extract honey from wild Bees or cropping a wild cherry tree).

[cojak]

The only way I have managed to lose any weight is by cutting portion sizes, esp carbs. I used to cook the trad proper dinner in the evening, lots of pasta and rice with meat and veg. Then we found just having the meat and veg but no or less carbs meant we still felt well fed , no indigestion, and weight started to come down. Avoiding all sugary treats too, if you just have the one biscuit it starts the cycle of craving for me. In some of the offices I work in, comfort eating is a way of life and people even spend their weekends baking for the office. They mean well and there is a risk of offending folk, but I have decided it is a risk that I just have to take.

Sorry guys, but THIS is the way to go.

I had a little butterball of a PM show me her lunch baox fretting that she couldn't understand why she wasn't losing weight, because she was eating healthily.

It was salad and healthy but 3 times the size of what I would eat.

When I gently pointed this out to her she went pale and asked "but aren't you hungry" like it was the worst thing in the world to be!

I replied generslly not but when I am I wait until the next meal time to eat. And when I pointed out that I'm always hungry for the 1st 2 weeks of the year as my body readjusts to post-Christmas eating I thought she was going to keel over.

Don't be afraid of hunger - you won't die before lunchtime.

[russell]

Sorry guys, but THIS is the way to go.

I had a little butterball of a PM show me her lunch baox fretting that she couldn't understand why she wasn't losing weight, because she was eating healthily.

It was salad and healthy but 3 times the size of what I would eat.

When I gently pointed this out to her she went pale and asked "but aren't you hungry" like it was the worst thing in the world to be!

I replied generslly not but when I am I wait until the next meal time to eat. And when I pointed out that I'm always hungry for the 1st 2 weeks of the year as my body readjusts to post-Christmas eating I thought she was going to keel over.

Don't be afraid of hunger - you won't die before lunchtime.

I tried a low carb, high fat/protein diet and went 8-10 hours without feeling hungry. The fat and protein provides satiety for long periods even a small amount. The low fat high carb diets make you crave more carbs and leads to binge eating and/or snacking all day. Over all you end up eating more calories.