Challenge for the UKIP

[DodgyAgent]

Yep, when my son was 3, that was nearly all he said :-)

And I will wager that he is none the wiser for it

[DodgyAgent]

Mr Farage does, however, vote for various busybody regulations on health and safety.

Now that you have lost the argument on EU withdrawl you are left trying to score points on points of order about Nigel farage? so if Farage votes (or does not vote) on something that contradicts his anti EU position does this mean that the UK should not hold a referendum?

It is fascinating how human beings will argue a point by shifting the argument onto something that they think they can win. I have this with my children, with staff and after many "run ins" I can spot the "shift" very easily (because I am so clever )

[Mich the Tester]

Now that you have lost the argument on EU withdrawl you are left trying to score points on points of order about Nigel farage? so if Farage votes (or does not vote) on something that contradicts his anti EU position does this mean that the UK should not hold a referendum?

It is fascinating how human beings will argue a point by shifting the argument onto something that they think they can win. I have this with my children, with staff and after many "run ins" I can spot the "shift" very easily (because I am so clever )

No, I'm pointing out that the person who says he'll rescue Britain from the EU has actually done nothing to help Britain's cause.

The argument on EU withdrawal is far from decided. I think Britain should be in, pushing for the kind of European agreement that it wants, and that others in the EU want, which is free trade, small government, enterprising, low tax, flexible labour markets, and it can get it by staying in and being chums with the northern countries.

[DodgyAgent]

No, I'm pointing out that the person who says he'll rescue Britain from the EU has actually done nothing to help Britain's cause.

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So what should they have done bearing in mind that they are not in power?

[Mich the Tester]

So what should they have done bearing in mind that they are not in power?

Turned up to vote against things that damage Britain's interests or load costs on Britain's businesses.

[DodgyAgent]

Turned up to vote against things that damage Britain's interests or load costs on Britain's businesses.

such as?

[Mich the Tester]

such as?

See Mr Darmstadt's link and order by the column with the thumbs; the green thumbs show the EU laws Mr Farage has supported. Extra rights for pregnant workers for example. Oh, and of course he votes against anything that reduces the EU budget.

[DodgyAgent]

such as?

British MEPs have worst European Parliament attendance record - Telegraph

In which case you have a point. Even though I had to find the evidence for you

[DodgyAgent]

See Mr Darmstadt's link and order by the column with the thumbs; the green thumbs show the EU laws Mr Farage has supported. Extra rights for pregnant workers for example. Oh, and of course he votes against anything that reduces the EU budget.

Yes he has used facts like saying "1 million germans were killed by British servicemen in world war one" is also a fact.
It has no balance and no point attached to it which renders it as nothing more than a statement designed to manipulate emotions.

[sasguru]

See Mr Darmstadt's link and order by the column with the thumbs; the green thumbs show the EU laws Mr Farage has supported. Extra rights for pregnant workers for example. .

Are you against extra rights for pregnant workers? Why? Seems sensible to me.