Challenge for the UKIP

[Mich the Tester]

Do you really believe a post UK EU is going to burst into tears, admit that it's done everything wrong, and promise it really is going to change this time in the hope of getting the UK back? Don't think so.

More likely the other 26 members will carry on exactly the same, except now with a greater left wing bias.

Precisely right. The balance of power, which is right now shifting to the north, would be thrown straight back to the lazy protectionist can't be arsed to work lefties in Paris, with all the economic tulip that that entails; does Britain realy stand to gain from an EU in an even deeper economic mess? No. What many people in Britain refuse to understand is that the natural allies of Britain in Europe are 1. the Germans, 2. the Dutch and the Scandinavians. Get together with that lot and support them when they need it, especially when the Dutch finance minister wants to try and block the EU budget, as he tried a few weeks ago without the support of Britain (even UKIP didn't help him on this, and they lie that they're anti-Europe) and the EU will be reformed very very quickly.

[Mich the Tester]

I see it like being a member of a golf club. Full of arcane practices and rules. I could get on the committee and push for change, or alternatively I could simply save myself the membership and pay green fees and not get involved.

A little like being a contractor

...or get together with the chief sponsor and the most talented players and turn it into a commercial team that storms the world and earns gazillions of pounds?

[DodgyAgent]

...or get together with the chief sponsor and the most talented players and turn it into a commercial team that storms the world and earns gazillions of pounds?

Like Herman Von Rumpey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo

[Mich the Tester]

Like Herman Von Rumpey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo

No, no, no. Not him. Angela Merkel is the one who can bring the whole show to an end; Herman van Rompuy is a walk-on extra. A bit like Nigel Farage really.

[DodgyAgent]

Like Herman Von Rumpey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo

And the team:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoAtCs7wXHY

[DodgyAgent]

No, no, no. Not him. Angela Merkel is the one who can bring the whole show to an end; Herman van Rompuy is a walk-on extra. A bit like Nigel Farage really.

Nigel Farage is an elected member of the EU Parliament, Von Rumpoy is not.

[Mich the Tester]

And the team:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoAtCs7wXHY

Did Mr Farage achieve anything substantial for the British public with this?

[Mich the Tester]

Nigel Farage is an elected member of the EU Parliament, Von Rumpoy is not.

Then Mr Farage and his party should start turning up and voting against idiot legislation instead of wasting taxpayers' money in Brussels pubs and insulting other people. He could actually say some worthwhile things about the EU, but nobody listens to him because he chooses to go around insulting people.

[DodgyAgent]

Then Mr Farage and his party should start turning up and voting against idiot legislation instead of wasting taxpayers' money in Brussels pubs and insulting other people. He could actually say some worthwhile things about the EU, but nobody listens to him because he chooses to go around insulting people.

I think you will find he does and I will think you will also find that most of his "insults" are levied against those who are freeloading off the EU gravy train. And if for a minute you think no one is listening to him then why are UKIP third in the Polls behind labour and the Torys.

If you want to see insults then I suggest you look at what the Europhiles say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5zQT6jLarE
and more importantly the desperate and illogical way they say it.

[DodgyAgent]

Did Mr Farage achieve anything substantial for the British public with this?

He made us laugh which is worth a million Euros in Brussels expenses