German speaking test

[sasguru]

a touch ott i think - life is for living and enjoying.

you can if you wish spend all your life not doing what you want for fear of what other people will think in the hope it will one day lead to something

but i guarantee it won't

I've been on the other side as a manager hiring contractors.
Suffice it to say that turning up with hangovers is a no renewal.
FFS when did it become acceptable to get drunk on a school day?

[suityou01]

I've been on the other side as a manager hiring contractors.
Suffice it to say that turning up with hangovers is a no renewal.
FFS when did it become acceptable to get drunk on a school day?

When Dortmund are playing Real Madrid and your German colleagues are also getting battered.

For info, the no renewal thing works both ways. I can only to easily imagine contractors you hired shaking the dust off their sandals at 5pm on their last day of working for you.

HTH BISDI.

[shaunbhoy]

Second week into a contract in Munich I was invited out with the bosses, who proceeded to take me to a hostess bar, drinking champagne. I was utterly ruined for a couple of days.

Fooking shandypants.

[d000hg]

If we could meet I would smack you right in the face.

Of course you wouldn't. If you saw him in real life you'd feel too sorry to hit him, it'd be like beating up a disabled.

[original PM]

when did it become acceptable to think that people you hire should simply get up, go to work, go home, go to bed

rinse n repeat

i also agree by the way that rolling in pissed is not great - however it was a bit of a one off for dortmund last night so an expected reaction?

you say they get no renewal... so what - the project you have them for will be over and then they get no renewal anyway

or maybe they hit the 2 year rule (assuming uk based) and do not want a renewal

so many time senior mgmt seem to expect that their employees are put on this planet solely to ensure their goals are met

and once they are they have no problems what so ever dumping said humans on the scrap heap

i work so i can live ...

[shaunbhoy]

I've been on the other side as a manager hiring contractors.
Suffice it to say that turning up with hangovers is BAU.

ftfy

Stop being such a curmudgeon sg. Anyone working for you for any length of time would have needed to be pissed on a daily basis to put up with your permanently anal demeanour.

[Old Hack]

As a contractor, with me its very much suit and tie at the client, I'll go out for beers - as you say its part and parcel of teamwork - but I'll control myself and not get drunk. All geniality and affability but not making an arse of myself, turning up with a hangover or anything that can be construed as unprofessional.
Spot on work and delivery.
Not surprisingly my contracts tend to last years rather months, if I want them to.

I tend not to like my contracts to last for years, for obvious reasons, but I digress. In a lot of organisations I have been working with, that kind of attitude would have you painted as stuffy, and wouldn't paint the picture you think you may have. I have been out in teams celebrating hitting milestones, deliveries, etc, and it's all part and parcel of team work, as it the occasional hangover; I don't think coming in hungover once or twice when the bosses know you've been out celebrating as a team is that much of a big deal to be frank, and I think you're overplaying it.

I've been on the other side as a manager hiring contractors.
Suffice it to say that turning up with hangovers is a no renewal.
FFS when did it become acceptable to get drunk on a school day?

Me too, and one thing I do like to look for, is evidence the team bonds well, and if that means occasionally they go out en masse and come in the next day a bit woolley, I don't think too much of it. Granted, if it's once a week, then you tend not to look fondly at it, but every now and again, as evidence of team work, bonding, it's fine imo.

I've come into work in a rotten state before, after a team do. Nothing wrong at all with it.

I did work with someone once, who was sent home as he wasn't hungover, he was still drunk. There's a difference.

[sasguru]

When Dortmund are playing Real Madrid and your German colleagues are also getting battered.

For info, the no renewal thing works both ways. I can only to easily imagine contractors you hired shaking the dust off their sandals at 5pm on their last day of working for you.

HTH BISDI.

Yeah you carry on as you are. I'm sure you will eventually be a great success.

[Mich the Tester]

Trouble is, I've seen Germans drink a few of those huge beers in the evening and then turn up to work at 8am prompt, showing no sign whatsoever of last night's revelries and ready to work hard and do ze teutonic efficiency thing. I know I can't keep up with their drinking, so I don't try.

[Old Hack]

Fooking shandypants.

Can't drink Champagne, goes straight to my head but I rarely drink nowadays, bad for the sante, bad for the figure, but I guess you've given up on that fat boy