Could you live on £7.50 a day?

[DodgyAgent]

You're allowed to do that now, since the early 60s I think.

you catholic boys eh!

[vetran]

the work wasn't unlawful, the procedure to force her to do it was implemented incorrectly AIUI.

[Mich the Tester]

you catholic boys eh!

Three hail Mary's and a nice soft cushion to sit on afterwards for you son.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Well, okay - I think it is a good idea, assuming the conditions are no worse than any other job.

Unless you are ill, too old, too young or looking after someone then you should either work, do national sevice (not necessarily the armed forces but something) or be in full time education and achiving passing grades.

National Service - what a laugh - how expensive do you think that would be to administer?

If none of these apply then you will have work provided for you in order to receive benefits. Either in a workhouse or somewhere else - even if it is painting railings dark grey before the next person paints them light grey.

What, like jobs?

Hilarious and exceptionally hard-of-thinking. What you appear to be advocating is somewhat akin to Stalinism, and for that reason inter alia, I'm out

[doodab]

You have to accept that there is a large amount of the population that just could not do any type of job safely and even the most basic work would require them to be constantly supervised, I'm not talking mentally handicapped but people just too stupid to do anything. You could be talking half a million.

Client co is hiring. They sound like a perfect fit...

[KentPhilip]

I saw a documentary on them a couple of years ago and they were only one step up from prison. Families were deliberately split up and once in there you had little chance of escaping.

I think it is fair to split up the family in terms of sleeping accommodation (apart from very young children), but that during the day the families should be able to associate with each other.

Yes workhouses are a bit like prisons, but the crucial difference is that the front door is always unlocked.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I think it is fair to split up the family in terms of sleeping accommodation (apart from very young children), but that during the day the families should be able to associate with each other.

Yes workhouses are a bit like prisons, but the crucial difference is that the front door is always unlocked.

A lot of prisons are open - and from the sounds of it, better than what you're advocating for people who have committed the crime of being poor.

[vetran]

I think most people are proposing workfare

Workfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which has the following advantages.
1. Rebuilds the persons confidence (if done correctly).
2. Retrains / rehabilitates people who have become institutionalised in unemployment.
3. reduces the chance of working illegally on benefits. 3- 6 months of workfare will kill most cash in hand jobs.
4. Forces claimants to physically appear reducing ghost claimants.
5. Dissuades long term unemployed languishing on benefits.
6. Pacifies the people who are paying for benefits.


I'm all for single mother refuges which prevents the step from being pregnant with no father support to becoming a baby machine in a nice council flat. This seems to be a career option many women make.

These could be used for the battered mothers / women as well possibly avoiding stories like the Philpotts, that scumbag preyed on abused women.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I think most people are proposing workfare

Workfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which has the following advantages.
1. Rebuilds the persons confidence (if done correctly).
2. Retrains / rehabilitates people who have become institutionalised in unemployment.
3. reduces the chance of working illegally on benefits. 3- 6 months of workfare will kill most cash in hand jobs.
4. Forces claimants to physically appear reducing ghost claimants.
5. Dissuades long term unemployed languishing on benefits.
6. Pacifies the people who are paying for benefits.

Or the wonderful free market could try creating some decent-paying jobs for ordinary folks who aren't the next Alan Sugar or Richard Branson, then they could cut all benefits after a year or two.

I'm all for single mother refuges which prevents the step from being pregnant with no father support to becoming a baby machine in a nice council flat. This seems to be a career option many women make.

How many? Does your "evidence" come from the Daily Mail?

These could be used for the battered mothers / women as well possibly avoiding stories like the Philpotts, that scumbag preyed on abused women.

Mick Philpott was a scrounger (As well as an all round git), but his wife and mistress worked. Scumbags come in rich and poor, worker and shirker versions.

[oracleslave]

Mick Philpott was a scrounger

convicted attempted murderer!