2013 CUK Fat/Fit Club

[d000hg]

So let me get this straight. When fat people say they have medical conditions that make losing weight difficult, everyone shouts at them that simple physics dictates weight change is simply calories consumed - calorie used. Yet at the same time, eating the same amount but increasing your energy usage won't lose weight?

These can't both be true. If you are at a stable weight and the only thing which changes is your exercise level, you surely HAVE TO lose weight.
Of course you might be eating more to compensate without realising it, but that's a different story.

Two dials indeed. In fact let's take weight out of it as muscle confuses things, and talk simply in terms of inches/flab - if you burn more calories than you consume your flab has to be burned.

[Jog On]

So let me get this straight. When fat people say they have medical conditions that make losing weight difficult, everyone shouts at them that simple physics dictates weight change is simply calories consumed - calorie used. Yet at the same time, eating the same amount but increasing your energy usage won't lose weight?

These can't both be true. If you are at a stable weight and the only thing which changes is your exercise level, you surely HAVE TO lose weight.
Of course you might be eating more to compensate without realising it, but that's a different story.

Two dials indeed. In fact let's take weight out of it as muscle confuses things, and talk simply in terms of inches/flab - if you burn more calories than you consume your flab has to be burned.

Makes sense on paper - but is it true in the actual results?

I agree it should work like that and it's very unfair that it just seems not to. There are a lot of other factors such as age and metabolic rate etc.

Also there are calories and there are calories... If you consumed 100 calories of chocolate and 100 calories of lettuce do you think you'd see the same results?

[MarillionFan]

Think of it like there being two separate dials - exercise controls strength and fitness whereas diet controls weight.
If you want to lose weight, turn down the calories. If you use more calories than you take in then you will lose weight.

I did the Insanity DVD set and have now started the sample plan in the awesome book Infinite Intensity (if you buy that you will never need another book about physical training). I also switched from having lunch off the van at work to having a graze box each day and sticking to it and only it. Apart from stopping taking sugar and tea these were the only changes I made.

I have lost almost 2 stone (1lb short but I am trying to put weight back on now) since December.

I've started the Insanity program as well when traveling. Dropped a stone within a few weeks but as soon as I stopped and went to the kebab shop it all came back on.

[Jog On]

I've started the Insanity program as well when traveling. Dropped a stone within a few weeks but as soon as I stopped and went to the kebab shop it all came back on.

I'd never have the discipline to stick at a home DVD thing. I need the visual stimulus at the gym to keep motivated. Makes it all much less of a chore as well

[MyUserName]

So let me get this straight. When fat people say they have medical conditions that make losing weight difficult, everyone shouts at them that simple physics dictates weight change is simply calories consumed - calorie used. Yet at the same time, eating the same amount but increasing your energy usage won't lose weight?

These can't both be true. If you are at a stable weight and the only thing which changes is your exercise level, you surely HAVE TO lose weight.

Ignoring medical conditions are they need to be handled on a case by case basis. You need to increase your energy usage massively to loose weight, controling your diet is far more effective. This is without the fact that people often eat more when they exercise as the increased expenditure will make them hungry etc.

Two dials indeed. In fact let's take weight out of it as muscle confuses things, and talk simply in terms of inches/flab - if you burn more calories than you consume your flab has to be burned.

*sigh* the two dials idea was just to help you visualise things, it was not an exact scientific representation.

I was trying to help you achieve a goal by giving you some information in something I happen to know quite a lot about after being involved in it for a fair few years. If you do not want my advice then don't take it. I will sit back having lost almost 2 stone more than you this year and bask in my ignorance.

[MyUserName]

I've started the Insanity program as well when traveling. Dropped a stone within a few weeks but as soon as I stopped and went to the kebab shop it all came back on.

Ah - yes ... it does need to be included as part of a lifestyle change for the results to stick!!

[minestrone]

All I can think of when seeing that insanity workout stuff on the TV is the structural havoc it must be causing to properties up and down the country with chunkies bouncing about on living room floors.

If I ever buy a property in a set of flats again I think I will take the weight of the upstairs neighbour into mind just in case they decide to 'get fit'.

[MyUserName]

All I can think of when seeing that insanity workout stuff on the TV is the structural havoc it must be causing to properties up and down the country with chunkies bouncing about on living room floors.

If I ever buy a property in a set of flats again I think I will take the weight of the upstairs neighbour into mind just in case they decide to 'get fit'.

Are you worried they might 'drop in'?

[Jog On]

This week's numbers:

-1.4 KG
-0.4% body fat

[Mich the Tester]

In fact let's take weight out of it as muscle confuses things, and talk simply in terms of inches/flab - if you burn more calories than you consume your flab has to be burned.

WHS