Muslims stirring it

[BA to the Stars]

I think we're getting to the nitty gritty here

Homophobes throughout the church and religion.

OK, thats fine and soon sorted out.

Oh dear Hawk - for all your supporting of the gay community and their right to marraige in church, you have used a supposed racist term.

[Hawk]

Oh dear Hawk - for all your supporting of the gay community and their right to marraige in church, you have used a supposed racist term.

Well, as it is allegedly a supposed racist term I wasn't aware of, I will sleep tonight.

[hyperD]

Some people are gay - get over it

I think that was a Stonewall poster advertising campaign a few years ago. Anecdotally (can't find a link) some wag had written on one of the posters:

"Most people don't care - get over it"

Which was quite apt.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I think that was a Stonewall poster advertising campaign a few years ago. Anecdotally (can't find a link) some wag had written on one of the posters:

"Most people don't care - get over it"

Which was quite apt.

The argument goes that homosexuality affects the morality of the whole of society.

[MyUserName]

The argument goes that homosexuality affects the morality of the whole of society.

*sigh* this is such a stupid 'argument' that I am not even sure where to start

[mudskipper]

The argument goes that homosexuality affects the morality of the whole of society.

And do you believe that argument is correct? I'm assuming 'the argument' is that it affects morality in a negative way? As opposed to encouraging tolerance and understanding.

[Mich the Tester]

The argument goes that homosexuality affects the morality of the whole of society.

When people talk tulip like that I have to wonder whether somebody's pushing it back up their intestine and out of their mouths from behind.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

And do you believe that argument is correct? I'm assuming 'the argument' is that it affects morality in a negative way? As opposed to encouraging tolerance and understanding.

It is viewed as something unnatural and against the purpose we have been created and exist for. Similar to incest and other kinds of sexual deviation. I am not saying I necessarily agree with those views but I can definitely understand that point, it's a simple equation:

I believe in God > God created us for a purpose > We stick to the natural way of doing things > Male created for Female etc.

[MyUserName]

It is viewed as something unnatural and against the purpose we have been created and exist for. Similar to incest and other kinds of sexual deviation. I am not saying I necessarily agree with those views but I can definitely understand that point, it's a simple equation:

I believe in God > God created us for a purpose > We stick to the natural way of doing things > Male created for Female etc.

But the rules against homosexuals (although it only forbids homosexual sex, I do not recollect it prohibiting homosexual marriage) are in the same books as many other laws the church ignores and it's followings think are absurd e.g. killing disobedient children.

Why is this different - why object to homosexual marriage if the bible does not and the only objection which is on the same subject is amongst ones that are already ignored?

I do not get the rationale of the theistic mind, I am quite baffled by it.

[d000hg]

IMO anyone who sees the bible/koran/other religious books as the answer to what's right and what's wrong and what is and what isn't has missed the point of said religions existing in the first place.

You don't think it's a tiny bit arrogant to tell a religion you know what their holy book means better than they do?

I saw a poster on the side of a bus the other day that makes a very good point - it said:

Some people are gay. Get over it.

I think that was a Stonewall poster advertising campaign a few years ago. Anecdotally (can't find a link) some wag had written on one of the posters:

"Most people don't care - get over it"

Which was quite apt.

I like that. But Stonewall aren't really known for their live and let live approach, if nobody cared they'd not have jobs any more!

Oh dear Hawk - for all your supporting of the gay community and their right to marraige in church, you have used a supposed racist term.

Don't be confused. Hawk doesn't give a damn about gay people and their rights, it's just an opportunity to cause trouble on their behalf. I'm sure any gay people on CUK wish he'd shut up as much as the rest of us

If you can't accept the way the world is then you're just going make yourslef very unhappy resisting what is - and probably make other people unhappy while you're at it.

That seems a pretty apathetic and rather depressing way to live. Put yourself in your little box, don't give a damn about anything or anyone else. We should accept school shootings, paedophiles and so on to avoid "being unhappy"? Isn't it a good thing if things make you unhappy so that you want to do something about it?

[note I am not saying we should be 'doing something about gay people', just tying onto that thread of thought]