Proper CUK fodder!

[The Spartan]

Listen to the squeals about capping benefits at £26,000 after tax.

Yep it's like a pen full of pigs being stuck with a knife simultaneously

[d000hg]

Then we offer that and the unemployed will be happy! I have no problem paying dole at that level, combine that with forced education & work and I suspect the jobless numbers would fall quite quickly.

Forced education up to 16 is far more than it used to be... and A-level + university is far more common. Doesn't seem to help.

Listen to the squeals about capping benefits at £26,000 after tax.

She's £10k short. If you can manage to live within the benefits and save up for XMas, good for you. Making people miserable might push them into work. Or it might just push them to drugs... in deprived areas kids are a problem because they don't have things to do other than hang about on the streets. Giving them 'luxuries' like a warm room with games in reduces crime and improves their chances of not turning into dirty crims

[vetran]

Forced education up to 16 is far more than it used to be... and A-level + university is far more common. Doesn't seem to help.

She's £10k short. If you can manage to live within the benefits and save up for XMas, good for you. Making people miserable might push them into work. Or it might just push them to drugs... in deprived areas kids are a problem because they don't have things to do other than hang about on the streets. Giving them 'luxuries' like a warm room with games in reduces crime and improves their chances of not turning into dirty crims

Forced education for Jobless, one of the complaints employers make are how poorly educated their potential employees are which is why they import staff or hire immigrants. We fix that and make sure they aren't working illegally by giving them education to bring them to a minimum level of achievement.

The way to stop them becoming filthy crims is keeping them busy not give them comfort and free time.

No she has more than enough money apparently (not quite sure how) , so the benefits are too generous. The £26,000 is a cap like 'pays up to' on job adverts.

You are missing the point everyone is paying this money to her, not just you & I at the top end of the wage range.

This girl is being kept in relative comfort by grannies afraid to turn on the heating because it costs too much on their pension, the private one they contributed to all their life that government raped and she would have been better off blowing her contributions on Booze. Even the pensioners without a private pension but worked all their life are worse off than her.

[Robinho]

She's £10k short. If you can manage to live within the benefits and save up for XMas, good for you. Making people miserable might push them into work. Or it might just push them to drugs... in deprived areas kids are a problem because they don't have things to do other than hang about on the streets. Giving them 'luxuries' like a warm room with games in reduces crime and improves their chances of not turning into dirty crims

How would you pay for drugs if you have no money?

Why would kids be on the streets if it was cold outside?

Cut benefits to the bear minimum and scrap the minimum wage. When people are faced with the reality that you have to work to survive, they might start doing it.

[minestrone]

Kids food is probably a 5 quid bag from Iceland once a week.

[psychocandy]

Yep that's right, having seen the way people abuse the system including my own relatives why should any different and might I add this is not the only article ever to appear there have been numerous articles.

This is old article not in the same vain as the ones that are more current but never the less I grew up on the same council estate as this family and they all went to my high school Britain's supermum Marie Harvey has 14 children, 20 grandkids and has 2 more on the way - Exclusive - Mirror Online

Llanedeyrn !!!!

[Robinho]

Forced education for Jobless

Disagree. First of all, what makes you think they are going to gain anything from it or even bother trying, and what are the eduslaves' KPIs? Secondly, why should the tax payer pay for the education of the lazy or unmotivated? Finally, many jobs barely need any education, or can be picked up on the job and not taught in the classroom.

[original PM]

why is Marie Harvey a 'supermum' is not being able to control what gets stuck up your fanny some sort of talent?

[psychocandy]

Then I'm sure she won't mind repaying the 2k, if ever there was a reason to have a benefits debit card this would be it.

Agree with you spartie.

What would be good would be a debit card that allows you to pay rent, elec/gas, food, clothes but no fags, booze, hairdressers, false nails, tattoos, ipads, TVs etc.

After all surely things like this are the basics and everything else is a luxury?

For a kid from a rough council estate in the welsh valleys Im turning into a bit of a Tory here mind!!! :-)

[original PM]

Disagree. First of all, what makes you think they are going to gain anything from it or even bother trying, and what are the eduslaves' KPIs? Secondly, why should the tax payer pay for the education of the lazy or unmotivated? Finally, many jobs barely need any education, or can be picked up on the job and not taught in the classroom.

Simply not true in this day and age - you need basic numeracy and literacy skills for the most basic of jobs - e.g. how can you stack shelves if you cannot read the food packaging or the shelf labels?