Massive Mosque?

[minestrone]

Religion bring nothing but war, poverty, ignorance, abuse and misery to humanity.

Those communists were a cheery bunch.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

For a start most of the big religions preach exclusivity, so only one can be true? Secondly they are based on ancient texts of fiction non backed up with any evidence (regarding the claims of supernatural power). Religion bring nothing but war, poverty, ignorance, abuse and misery to humanity.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Same is the case with religion.

[NotAllThere]

Guns don't kill religion, people kill religion?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Guns don't kill religion, people kill religion?

you know what I mean.

Religion can be abused just like many other things..... A gun can be used for Good in the same way it can be used for Evil. It can be used for self-defence, it can be used to hunt to provide food, it can be used in sport, it can be used as a deterrent against criminals. It can also be used to murder, harm, torture etc.

[NotAllThere]

I think the fallacious argument is that only religion makes good people do bad things.

[minestrone]

Outwith the terorist attacks recently thinking back over the spree shooters and serial killers in the UK there is not much evidence that religion was involved, Bible John possibly but there was no evidence to state that religion was a motivation on that.

I think bad people will just do bad things.

[NotAllThere]

Voltaire "Man will never be free until the last politician is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

Where do lawyers fit in?

[d000hg]

strangely we have some in Slough

Friday afternoon traffic round the entire area is abysmal.

The tile shop two rows down might as well shut up shop on a Friday afternoon.


The main reason is it makes clear the sheer scale of immigration and the fact that the mosque will allegedly grow in size (aggressively and without planning consent) and parking from the start will be woefully inadequate.

The Sikh / Hindu temples however seem to just fit in and have enough parking, not sure why.

Or put mosques outside the town like supermarkets.

Churches in this country were mostly built long ago and people moving into the area know what the deal is and what the usage is.

New Mosques do not have that luxury and it can have as much of an impact on the streets in the area as a supermarket being built. I think the solution is to tell them to move their day of prayer to a weekend day and if they do not like it tell them they are intolerant of our society. Problem solved.

Really?

The Evangelicals have been going around London converting old cinemas and bingo halls into Churches.

People who used the cinemas and bingo halls generally use to travel by public transport unfortunately church goers can't be guaranteed to do this.

In my area we have had to threaten two of the local churches with bringing in longer parking restrictions to cover evenings and Sundays due to their inconsiderate behaviour. It's worked - they know if they p*ss all of us off we will lobby the council so they can't park at all in a 1.5 mile radius on a Sunday.

Good point, perhaps most of the big churches - and certainly the big growing ones - are in new buildings or re-purposed ones which are mostly not churches. Traditional church buildings are generally not where the Christians are at.

[d000hg]

Nah, just those who can't keep their faith to themselves.

Should have phrased this as disliking all religious groups and their objectives equally, I don't actually care about the individuals.

It's always good to make judgements about people based on some aggregated fact such as colour, religion, football team they support, it makes it much easier to hate a group when you don't allow them to become people.

I actually know a hell of a lot more about religion and religious practice than the average religious fella (that isn't hard though).

Doubtful, unless your understanding of 'religious person' means someone who ticks 'Christian' on forms and goes to church for the carols.

[formant]

I think the fallacious argument is that only religion makes good people do bad things.

Has any one said that here? The 'only' bit? The more common (and equally fallacious) claim tends to come from the other side, who frequently enough believe that you need religion (their particular one) to be a good person.