Here's hoping this finally comes into play

[Sausage Surprise]

Don't rain on my parade lol, there's always hope plus it preys on petty jealousies which I like such as the fact that people often get houses quicker as they have more children, they're also able to run a car and provide their kids with the latest consoles etc. It really rattles peoples cages and makes them emotive, when I was in the Civil Service I had a conversation about benefits with a woman who was in the training department she pointed out to me that as she is married and has no kids she has to put into the system but doesn't get a jot from it. How many people feel the same way? and of course factor in those who are working that have kids and get no financial assistance from the government yet they're taxes subsidise the lazy family across the street that have lots of kids and have never worked a day in their lives.

Similarly, I send my kids to a fee paying school therefore saving the govt paying for 2 places in a state school. Why don't I get my fees subsidised?

[speling bee]

Similarly, I send my kids to a fee paying school therefore saving the govt paying for 2 places in a state school. Why don't I get my fees subsidised?

You could. The money would then be found by raising tax on higher rate tax payers I guess.

[The Spartan]

So, does that mean we can expect people to get as many kids in as possible before that date?

Increased birthrate now, then a drop in birthrate and increase in abortion rate after the date?

Well it seems they're doing that anyway, they make their own choices whether they're well thought out or not isn't any of my concern. All I know is the blatant abuse of the system has to stop somewhere, we have people who have worked all their lives and are now retired dying in winter because they cannot afford to put on the heating. Yet money distributed as benefits is being squandered on iPhones, car, Xboxes, cigarettes and alcohol.

[The Spartan]

Similarly, I send my kids to a fee paying school therefore saving the govt paying for 2 places in a state school. Why don't I get my fees subsidised?

I believe you should or you should have to pay less in tax

[escapeUK]

I believe you should or you should have to pay less in tax

If we continue that to its logical conclusion, then people with children should pay more in tax to pay for their education, NHS etc You may argue that everyone benefits from children being educated, but equally everyone benefits from roads and yet only people who own vehicles pay road tax.

[vetran]

You could. The money would then be found by raising tax on higher rate tax payers I guess.

nope because most of those are looking at avoidance systems.

It would come from average earners who can't afford to pay for themselves.

Most of us are sufficiently well off we can consider a minor tax increase as an annoyance, but the 80% where the majority of tax is now collected are already being hit by the top 1% avoiding more tax and the top 10% following suit this will only get worse.

The COUNTRY NEEDS TO SPEND LESS

[vetran]

I believe you should or you should have to pay less in tax

You do assuming the school is eligible the child's allowance is paid to the school and they have charity status.

Private schools win tax break reprieve over assisted places | Education | The Guardian

[escapeUK]

The COUNTRY NEEDS TO SPEND LESS

What the country needs is to reduce the feeling of entitlement.

This is what makes it impossible to fix our economic problems and anyone who trys will be punished at the ballet box, so none of them will ever dare and this is why we have pretend austerity now. This is why the country will ultimately go bust as they are unable to stop spending money they dont have.

[minestrone]

I was reading a football forum the other day where a thread on jobs was going on and there was a general agreement that taxation should be raised so the government can create jobs.

I'm of the opinion that a great deal of people have absolutely no idea of what a government is there to do, worse than that they have such limited intelligence that they have a completely warped opinion of what a government should do and that there is such a large number of these people that they inflict their stupidity on me with the democratic system.

Some people should not be allowed to vote. Claim benefits, banned, no qualifications, banned, criminal, banned, thinking that I should have to pay to keep someone in a job, banned.

[vetran]

What the country needs is to reduce the feeling of entitlement.

This is what makes it impossible to fix our economic problems and anyone who trys will be punished at the ballet box, so none of them will ever dare and this is why we have pretend austerity now. This is why the country will ultimately go bust as they are unable to stop spending money they dont have.

I think the majority understand the need tor Austerity, but most want someone else to pay.

Interesting survey yesterday
80% wanted more taxes & cuts.
25% thought these should affect them personally.

from memory but those were the rough percentages.