On religion

[MyUserName]

How does someone else tell whether the person who claims that he 'knows' God has spoken to him is telling the truth? They don't.

So anyone who tells anyone about their God might be lying/wrong. Okay, that makes sense.

Why does God speak to so many different people and tell them such radically different things? He doesn't.

Well he quite clearly does. People have murdered for God, not murdered people for God, been forced to marry their rapists for God been persecuted for their sexuality for God, been accepted for what they are for God etc.

If God is telling all of these people all of these different things how on earth is anyone to know what the actual God is saying or even if he is saying anything. Please note that the bible has been used to support all of the above examples.

Assuming Jesus was real (there is no historical evidence for it) and assuming his miracles actually happened, how do we determine whether Jesus was telling the truth about the source of his powers?It's all bollocks.

Well at least we can agree on that.

Why has no faith healer ever managed to heal an amputee?God works in mysterious ways.

How does one differentiate between a God working in mysterious ways and confirmation bias based upon wishful thinking?

[Bunk]

How does one differentiate between a God working in mysterious ways and confirmation bias based upon wishful thinking?

I work in mysterious ways too, or sometimes not at all.

In fact, f*** me, maybe God was a contractor

[speling bee]

So anyone who tells anyone about their God might be lying/wrong. Okay, that makes sense. They might be. Some people lie.


Well he quite clearly does. People have murdered for God, not murdered people for God, been forced to marry their rapists for God been persecuted for their sexuality for God, been accepted for what they are for God etc. They were wrong about God.

If God is telling all of these people all of these different things how on earth is anyone to know what the actual God is saying or even if he is saying anything. Please note that the bible has been used to support all of the above examples. He isn't telling people these different things. Some of these people are wrong and some misinterpret.


Well at least we can agree on that.


How does one differentiate between a God working in mysterious ways and confirmation bias based upon wishful thinking? Through faith

HTH

[sasguru]

I work in mysterious ways too, or sometimes not at all.

In fact, f*** me, maybe God was a contractor

Weeks contract without extension according to the Bible. MetaGod/MetaAgency drove a hard bargain.

[TestMangler]

Weeks contract without extension according to the Bible. MetaGod/MetaAgency drove a hard bargain.

Got send home after day 6 though, invoking the MOO clause......

[d000hg]

Assuming Jesus was real (there is no historical evidence for it)

Ah I see, you're just making false claims to cause arguments now? Apart from many gospels (which claim to be historical documents) there are secular mentions of him too.

Why has no faith healer ever managed to heal an amputee?

What do you define as a 'faith healer'? Do you mean why has no gospel-style healing miracle occurred like when Jesus reportedly healed a withered arm?

[MyUserName]

Well he quite clearly does. People have murdered for God, not murdered people for God, been forced to marry their rapists for God been persecuted for their sexuality for God, been accepted for what they are for God etc. They were wrong about God.

Who were? For example forcing a rape victim to marry her rapist was explicitly commanded in the bible, murdering practicing homosexuals was also required. Who was wrong and who was right?

If God is telling all of these people all of these different things how on earth is anyone to know what the actual God is saying or even if he is saying anything. Please note that the bible has been used to support all of the above examples. He isn't telling people these different things. Some of these people are wrong and some misinterpret.

God could have made sure they were not wrong or misinterpretting as he is all powerful but being as he did not we know that, for one thing, he sows confusion which is one thing he claimed not to do. However, being as it is possible to be wrong when thinking that God has spoken to you how does anyone know if they are right or not? If you pray to God then you might be the one who is wrong and the Templars were right?

How does one differentiate between a God working in mysterious ways and confirmation bias based upon wishful thinking? Through faith

What is the difference between faith and wishful thinking?

[TestMangler]

Weeks contract without extension according to the Bible. MetaGod/MetaAgency drove a hard bargain.

Just realised that the implication here is that Agents were in existence prior to god....

This explains the complete lack of morals I suppose

[NotAllThere]

...What is the difference between faith and wishful thinking?

Wishful thinking is hoping something will happen. Faith is trust in an individual. It's all there in the dictionary if you care to take a look.

[d000hg]

faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1)

HTH