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    Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
    If logic limits God's power - who created logic?
    If logic binds God's power, then logic was not created. It is just a system to describe what is and is not possible.
    The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

    George Frederic Watts

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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      Originally posted by speling bee View Post
      If logic binds God's power, then logic was not created. It is just a system to describe what is and is not possible.
      I thought that God created everything and before him there was nothing?
      If logic was before him then how did it get there and also he is not eternal as he had a start point.

      If he created everything and also create logic as a rule set then this is a self imposed rule and he could break it if he chose to as he can just rebuild the universe and chose to not use this rule.
      "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

      https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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        In New Scientist a couple of weeks ago, there were articles on the nature of reality. One proposal is that reality is defined by mathematics. Since all of mathematics can be derived from the empty set, then if the basis of reality is maths, the basis of reality is nothing. Nothing requires no explanation, therefore reality requires no explanation.

        Oh dear, says God, I hadn't thought of that...
        Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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          Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
          and is repeatedly guilty of reading into the text what isn't really there.
          Isn't this true of every translation?

          Also, what about the bits that the Church decided are not canon... I'd love to know about the inconvenient truths in those documents!

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            Originally posted by speling bee View Post
            It is naughty. But what are we to make of God repenting of making Saul king? Let's just accept he changes his mind and isn't perfect. It doesn't invalidate the core of faith.
            God not being perfect doesn't invalidate the core of faith?

            Originally posted by sasguru View Post
            Since when were you interested in proof?
            I thought your beliefs are based on faith.
            Originally posted by Platypus View Post
            Isn't this true of every translation?
            Bible translation is a serious profession done by serious, expert scholars - who also work on secular documents. Their job is purely to translate the original Greek/Hebrew/whatever into modern languages in the most accurate way possible.
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
              I thought that God created everything and before him there was nothing?
              If logic was before him then how did it get there and also he is not eternal as he had a start point.

              If he created everything and also create logic as a rule set then this is a self imposed rule and he could break it if he chose to as he can just rebuild the universe and chose to not use this rule.
              Logic isn't a thing. It just describes how things work.
              The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

              George Frederic Watts

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                God not being perfect doesn't invalidate the core of faith?
                Why should it?
                The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                George Frederic Watts

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                  Originally posted by speling bee View Post
                  Why should it?
                  Psalm 18:30 NIV - As for God, his way is perfect: The - Bible Gateway
                  Mat 5:48 NIV - Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly - Bible Gateway

                  BibleGateway - Quick search: perfect
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                  Originally posted by vetran
                  Urine is quite nourishing

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                    Originally posted by speling bee View Post
                    Logic isn't a thing. It just describes how things work.
                    And provides rules which God cannot break?

                    Thus God is not all powerful, which is at odds with mainstream Christianity.
                    "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

                    https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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                      Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
                      And provides rules which God cannot break?

                      Thus God is not all powerful, which is at odds with mainstream Christianity.
                      Then maybe God is outside of logic. Then he is all powerful.
                      The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                      George Frederic Watts

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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