Maybe we should take Eugenics more seriously?

[Old Greg]

hear hear!

I can respect a socialist that lives by his credentials. But its hard to say you are for the people when you are avoiding a union rally fighting for the civil service pensions only to be seen climbing out the back of a millionaires Rolls Royce to go and sit in his directors box to watch football...

What the hell was Ed Millipede thinking that day?

Fact is as long as we are allowed to sterilise them, I am more than happy to pay for the great unwashed to drink themselves to death or sleep for the rest of their lives. However The Civil Service will kill this country in another decade or so and that really does need attention...

Milliband is a treacherous New Labour capitalist piece of tulip. In my considered opinion.

[DodgyAgent]

Milliband is a treacherous New Labour capitalist piece of tulip. In my considered opinion.

I also like lefties who embrace and encourage capitalism as a force for good. Lefties who make a comfortable living from capitalist activities and then criticise capitalism I cannot abide (ie contractors with this viewpoint)

[sasguru]

I also like lefties who embrace and encourage capitalism as a force for good. Lefties who make a comfortable living from capitalist activities and then criticise capitalism I cannot abide (ie contractors with this viewpoint)

Problem is you call everyone a leftie who doesn't agree with your 19th century, stuck in the mud, binary viewpoint. Exactly the sort of viewpoint that has got us in this mess in the first place.
I happen to be a rightie who can see that things are not working. I'm also a pragmatist, not a blinkered idealogue like you, and would use any ideas, from the right or left, that worked.
Frankly this right or left debate is so 19th century.
The world has moved on and we know so much more about psychology - we need to get the incentivisation right - and its not about money. There need to be a consensus between management, workers and government as there is in Germany, where everyone gives up something so all can gain.

[DodgyAgent]

Problem is you call everyone a leftie who doesn't agree with your 19th century, stuck in the mud, binary viewpoint. .

Should I call them cretin instead?

[DodgyAgent]

There need to be a consensus between management, workers and government as there is in Germany, where The Greeks give up something so all can gain.

FTFY

[Old Greg]

I also like lefties who embrace and encourage capitalism as a force for good. Lefties who make a comfortable living from capitalist activities and then criticise capitalism I cannot abide (ie contractors with this viewpoint)

It is a pity you are so ignorant.

I make a good living out of business activities, not capitalist activities. My income is derived from the value of my labour, not from capital such as through the surplus value of people I employ.

Tell me where the hypocrisy is.

[Robinho]

Old Greg you do not understand what capitalism is.

[Old Greg]

Old Greg you do not understand what capitalism is.

Yes I do.

[Robinho]

No you don't. You do derive a living through capitalist activities.

[Old Greg]

No you don't. You do derive a living through capitalist activities.

Do I make a living through my labour or through my capital?