Doctors will only get £68,000/year pension under revised scheme

[DodgyAgent]

Firstly this country is living beyond its means so it is entirely right that public sector pensions are cut - we dont have the money. What idiots do not realise is that money funnily enough does not grow on trees. If we are to fund these amazingly high doctors pensions then the rest of us will have to work harder and longer to pay for them. We will probably have to at the same time give up our own pensions in order to pay for theirs.
I don't care what they do but anyone earning over a £100,000 per year in a job with almost total security - I dont care who they are are hardly due any sympathy. Doctors are just as greedy as anyone.

[d000hg]

You sound a bit socialistic there DA. Surely everyone's entitled to fight for every penny they can from their employer?
And of course it's simple economics you need to pay doctors a lot to make the decade of training and so on seem worthwhile.

99% of the private sector will have lower pension expectations too. Including me.

Why shouldn't we go on strike?

Go right ahead.

[DodgyAgent]

You sound a bit socialistic there DA. Surely everyone's entitled to fight for every penny they can from their employer?
And of course it's simple economics you need to pay doctors a lot to make the decade of training and so on seem worthwhile.

Go right ahead.

They can indeed fight but where they enjoy the privilege of having their training funded by the taxpayer and where they enjoy a complete monopoly then they should forfeit some of the power that they have so enjoyed.

[vetran]

if the total contributions plus a reasonable level of interest will cover the pension its reasonable after that its a benefit that may be trimmed.

[d000hg]

They can indeed fight but where they enjoy the privilege of having their training funded by the taxpayer and where they enjoy a complete monopoly then they should forfeit some of the power that they have so enjoyed.

Expecting to people to voluntarily give up some of their income, or to agree to worse terms 'for the common good'? You're such a leftie.

[Doggy Styles]

"99% of the private sector will have lower pension expectations too. Including me. Why shouldn't we go on strike?"

Go right ahead.

And there you have the considered answer reflecting public sector 'me me me'.

I'll tell you why I shouldn't go on strike. I have no-one to hold to ransom. I work in a competitive environment and someone else would take over my job. But most fundamentally, I know that the money simply isn't there to maintain my old expectations.

The private sector can look forward to reduced pension AND is expected to pay extra to maintain pension levels of public sector workers, who already enjoy jobs for life and an average wage above that of the private sector. Not exactly sharing the burden is it.

The private sector is the one that most drives the nation's economy. It should be encouraged, not taken the p1ss out of.

[d000hg]

In other countries they do have unions for private sector workers, and they do strike. Don't they?

[moggy]

"99% of the private sector will have lower pension expectations too. Including me. Why shouldn't we go on strike?"

And there you have the considered answer reflecting public sector 'me me me'.

I'll tell you why I shouldn't go on strike. I have no-one to hold to ransom. I work in a competitive environment and someone else would take over my job. But most fundamentally, I know that the money simply isn't there to maintain my old expectations.

The private sector can look forward to reduced pension AND is expected to pay extra to maintain pension levels of public sector workers, who already enjoy jobs for life and an average wage above that of the private sector. Not exactly sharing the burden is it.

The private sector is the one that most drives the nation's economy. It should be encouraged, not taken the p1ss out of.

if you read your comment back it actually sounds like you saying.. me me me...

only crying why not me me me...

HTH

[minestrone]

Firstly this country is living beyond its means so it is entirely right that public sector pensions are cut - we dont have the money. What idiots do not realise is that money funnily enough does not grow on trees. If we are to fund these amazingly high doctors pensions then the rest of us will have to work harder and longer to pay for them. We will probably have to at the same time give up our own pensions in order to pay for theirs.
I don't care what they do but anyone earning over a £100,000 per year in a job with almost total security - I dont care who they are are hardly due any sympathy. Doctors are just as greedy as anyone.

As greedy as Dentists? who earn far more than doctors who as soon as they get a full NHS patient book go private at the cost of the patient.

Dotors are pretty commited to the NHS model of free health care for all, they are now being paid enough not to move slipt into public private like dentisty which was an option.

If you are going to make a bold comment on a subject at least know your stuff, else you are going to make yourself look like an idiot.