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Look, it's like this - the Govt controls the Parliament and it's their job to get such laws that would make it possible to put guys like that on the first plane out. It's Govts job to have good enough lawyers who can do such things - it's not like Govt is poor and can't afford well paid lawyers to argue it's way? -
I don't believe that the government does control Parliament.Originally posted by AtW View PostLook, it's like this - the Govt controls the Parliament and it's their job to get such laws that would make it possible to put guys like that on the first plane out. It's Govts job to have good enough lawyers who can do such things - it's not like Govt is poor and can't afford well paid lawyers to argue it's way?Comment
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They somehow managed to tax cornish pasties this year and also grannies, perhaps it would be easier for them to get cross party support for immediate deporation of a few named individuals who are not citizens of this country.Originally posted by Old Greg View PostI don't believe that the government does control Parliament.
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You really dont have a clue about laws and constitutions and judiciary and how all those work together do you?Originally posted by AtW View PostThey somehow managed to tax cornish pasties this year and also grannies, perhaps it would be easier for them to get cross party support for immediate deporation of a few named individuals who are not citizens of this country.
McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."Comment
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There have been are few cases of unlawful removal over the years...actually there was one about two years ago. In each case the person was returned to the UK at tax payers cost. The person sued and got a lot of money.Originally posted by AtW View PostToo much talk and too little action.
Put him on the first plane to Jordan.
If he is not happy he can sue UK from there - no legal aid and any money he gets sent to his lawyers here or anywhere in EU should be checked for money laundering and terrorism related funding.
Even if he wins in 10 years his compensation will be less than overall costs associated with this pathetic effort to deport somebody who has no right to stay in country in the first place: AFAIK even EU citizens can be barred from UK on grounds of national security: MP of Holland (who is not in Govt there) was stopped from getting into this country few years ago.
My wife is currently working on one such case at the moment.Last edited by lilelvis2000; 19 April 2012, 20:52.McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."Comment
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Makes you about as bad as him.Originally posted by NorthWestPerm2Contr View PostThis guy is a blatent extemist - who either directly or indirectly sponsors terrorism. If we are not going to have him executed the least we can do is just return him to where he came from and let him worry about the consequences.
It's not a condescending or a leftie view, but a view that considers other people are worth something. And not in the way an agent would understand.Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostI agree it does'nt matter,
It is interesting that the condescending leftist view is that we owe these sort of people a living or protection whilst at the same time looking down at the regimes from which they come from.
Refusing to act in a way which knowingly lets even a bad man be tortured is how we demonstrate we are better.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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You can do extraordinary rendition without worrying about obeying UK lawOriginally posted by lilelvis2000 View PostYou really dont have a clue about laws and constitutions and judiciary and how all those work together do you?
Doing the needful since 1827Comment
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For me this illustrates why Dawkins and his ilk have got so much wrong.Originally posted by d000hg View PostMakes you about as bad as him.
It's not a condescending or a leftie view, but a view that considers other people are worth something. And not in the way an agent would understand.
Refusing to act in a way which knowingly lets even a bad man be tortured is how we demonstrate we are better.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostThey somehow managed to tax cornish pasties this year and also grannies, perhaps it would be easier for them to get cross party support for immediate deporation of a few named individuals who are not citizens of this country.

Acts that name individuals in this way such as an Act of Attainder have fallen out of use.Comment
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