Third speeding ticket in six months!!

[minestrone]

if you've been driving 30 years or so you really should be able to gauge how fast you're driving without looking at the speedo constantly.

As for 35 in a 30, it depends on the situation. If its outside a school at 8:55am on a Tuesday, it's too fast, if it's 2am on a Saturday in the middle of a deserted industrial estate in Barnsley then it's not.

Speed is a linear but energy stored in a moving object is velocity to the power of two, a car at 40 has nearly double the kinetic power that a car at 30 has.

You are all idiots if you cannot stick to the 30 limit.

[BrilloPad]

Speed is a linear but energy stored in a moving object is velocity to the power of two, a car at 40 has nearly double the kinetic power that a car at 30 has.

You are all idiots if you cannot stick to the 30 limit.

Depends on where the 30mph limit is and weather conditions. Doing 30mph outside a primary school on acwet day is very different to heading out of town about to enter a 50mph zone in fine weather.

Which is why we need police to apply a human test. Well, as human as the babylon can be.

[stek]

Speed is a linear but energy stored in a moving object is velocity to the power of two, a car at 40 has nearly double the kinetic power that a car at 30 has.

You are all idiots if you cannot stick to the 30 limit.

What about a one tonne car vs a two tonne car, does it change?

Can a 1972 Caddy at 40mph kill more immigrants than a 2002 Ka at the same speed? Assuming they were in the way of course, so that's ok...

[stek]

Depends on where the 30mph limit is and weather conditions. Doing 30mph outside a primary school on acwet day is very different to heading out of town about to enter a 50mph zone in fine weather.

Which is why we need police to apply a human test. Well, as human as the babylon can be.

That's what I always said, scrap all the driving laws and replace it with just dangerous driving. If I'm doing 140mph on the M6 north of Tebay at 1:00am what does it matter? On the other hand if I'm doing 21mph in a 20 with kids everywhere fair enough.

[BrilloPad]

That's what I always said, scrap all the driving laws and replace it with just dangerous driving. If I'm doing 140mph on the M6 north of Tebay at 1:00am what does it matter? On the other hand if I'm doing 21mph in a 20 with kids everywhere fair enough.

Stek for PM! The best thing is that someone aged 100 with no eyesight driving at 10mph could be banned for dangerous driving i.e. driving too slowly.

[TimberWolf]

Interesting defence, "I was speeding because the big boys made me"

Yeah, but you made that one up yourself.

Hardly anyone does 30 mph apart from grannies and the odd person who has someone a foot off his rear bumper, followed by a mile of other frustrated traffic involving itself in accidents trying to pass.

Are you seriously saying you do 30 mph in a 30 mph zone?

[adubya]

Are you seriously saying you do 30 mph in a 30 mph zone?

Yup.

[TimberWolf]

What about a one tonne car vs a two tonne car, does it change?

Can a 1972 Caddy at 40mph kill more immigrants than a 2002 Ka at the same speed? Assuming they were in the way of course, so that's ok...

Energy, wot causes the damage, goes as 0.5 m v^2, so doubling the weight would double the potential for doing damage (work). Changes in momentum also goes linear with speed and mass, and that can be important too, since humans can only take so much acceleration too.

But they model human damage with a power 4 law IIRC rather than the square, possibly because humans will take a certain amount of damage before stuff goes snap.

[TimberWolf]

Yup.

Rubbish.

[adubya]

No, I do. Sorry if it's hard to comprehend that I stick to speed limits in urban areas where there are lots of road junctions / pedestrians / cyclists / kids but that's your issue not mine