Third speeding ticket in six months!!

[TimberWolf]

No, I do. Sorry if it's hard to comprehend that I stick to speed limits in urban areas where there are lots of road junctions / pedestrians / cyclists / kids but that's your issue not mine

If you were concerned about those groups you'd be doing 20 mph or less and not slavishly following a speed limit, which is a maximum not a target.

[stek]

Energy, wot causes the damage, goes as 0.5 m v^2, so doubling the weight would double the potential for doing damage (work). Changes in momentum also goes linear with speed and mass, and that can be important too, since humans can only take so much acceleration too.

But they model human damage with a power 4 law IIRC rather than the square, possibly because humans will take a certain amount of damage before stuff goes snap.

So, then, weight of car must be taken in account WRT to danger/speed?

If taken literally then so must tiredness of driver, age/responsiveness of driver, whether got wife nagging, whether got kids arguing, it's all subjective.

And nobody, nobody does 30mph in a 30, unless there's no other cars, no cams and you've had 3 NIPs in six months. then I'll do 30.

It's an error tax, that's all it is, a tax on making a slight misjudgement.

[adubya]

If you were concerned about those groups you'd be doing 20 mph or less and not slavishly following a speed limit, which is a maximum not a target.

BTW I don't put the cruise control at 30 and just sit back.

[NickFitz]

Doing 30 mph in a 30 mph zone almost guarantees a tailgating session and the risk of being involved in an accident or a punch up. 33 mph is what you want. Hardly anyone does 30 mph. Grannies are exempt and just get hooted at.

Where on earth do you live? Is it some kind of dystopian future netherworld? Or are you just exaggerating wildly?

[Sysman]

A colleague of mine overtook a bus on a 50mph stretch in his Porsche, touching briefly 80mph. Unfortunately he got caught by a radar trap. The police actually wrote on the report that the maneouver was in no way dangerous, and as a result he got the minimum possible fine. Thankfully, in this country, there's some discretion allowed. (And you can get "just over" tickets as many times as you like!)

Yes, the only speeding tickets I have had here was when stressed out during the week of a house move, all only slightly over the limit. I was more pissed off with myself than the system, and I wasn't in fear of losing my licence.

[NickFitz]

Are you seriously saying you do 30 mph in a 30 mph zone?

I always do. So do the majority of motorists in the city where I live, and in all the other places I've driven. I think you have a nasty case of confirmation bias due to the need to justify your disregard for the law to yourself.

[adubya]

Where on earth do you live? Is it some kind of dystopian future netherworld? Or are you just exaggerating wildly?

I don't know either but I certainly wouldn't want to live there

[minestrone]

Where on earth do you live? Is it some kind of dystopian future netherworld? Or are you just exaggerating wildly?

There is this place you town folk call the country.

[TimberWolf]

So, then, weight of car must be taken in account WRT to danger/speed?

If taken literally then so must tiredness of driver, age/responsiveness of driver, whether got wife nagging, whether got kids arguing, it's all subjective.

And nobody, nobody does 30mph in a 30, unless there's no other cars, no cams and you've had 3 NIPs in six months. then I'll do 30.

It's an error tax, that's all it is, a tax on making a slight misjudgement.

Yeah, a heavy car usually beats a light car hands down in accidents, so weight is important in that respect. But as weights are otherwise constant, the damage each will sustain is mainly related to the square of their speeds.

[stek]

I always do. So do the majority of motorists in the city where I live, and in all the other places I've driven. I think you have a nasty case of confirmation bias due to the need to justify your disregard for the law to yourself.

So do u do 27mph on the speedo to allow for error? Do you check the speedo while driving at 30 or 27? Can you be sure you are being vigilant if you do check, and can you be sure you are within the limit if you don't check and are therefore not vigilant?