Third speeding ticket in six months!!

[BrilloPad]

They have one of those signs near us that tells you the speed you are doing. I always try to see how high I can get it - especially if the kids are in the car. Why can't they have a happy face if you are 30 or less or a sad face if you are over? All the other speed cameras are like that and I always try for a happy face.

[TimberWolf]

So do I. As I am concerned about killing someone. But I have no issue with driving at 100mph on motorway in clear conditions with few cars.

Nick will be claiming he does precisely 70 mph on the motorway next. All baloney of course, or he's a statistical outlier.

[stek]

In many countries the legislated error in speedometer readings is ultimately governed by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) Regulation 39[3] which covers those aspects of vehicle type approval which relate to speedometers. The main purpose of the UNECE regulations is to facilitate trade in motor vehicles by agreeing uniform type approval standards rather than requiring a vehicle model to undergo different approval processes in each country in which it is to be sold.
European Union member states must also grant type approval to vehicles meeting similar EU standards. The ones covering speedometers [4] [5][6] are similar to the UNECE regulation in that they specify that:
The indicated speed must never be less than the actual speed, i.e. it should not be possible to inadvertently speed because of an incorrect speedometer reading.
The indicated speed must not be more than 110 percent of the true speed plus 4 km/h at specified test speeds. For example, at 80 km/h, the indicated speed must be no more than 92 km/h.

Speedometer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have to admit defeat on this one!!!

[adubya]

The lawyers would be all over speeding convictions if this overreading requirement weren't in place

[TimberWolf]

The lawyers would be all over speeding convictions if this overreading requirement weren't in place

I think a couple of things work in favour of motorists, who I contend don't stick to 30 mph in a 30 zone, at least according to speedo speed.

• The speedos speed, which may provide up to 10 % leaway plus a bit more. Maximum. Can't be relied on
• Discretion in enforcement, allowing a few miles per hour over the limits. Again, can't be relied on
• Oh, and the shear numbers of people that would be caught if 30 mph were rigidly enforced

[BrilloPad]

the shear numbers of people that would be caught if 30 mph were rigidly enforced

But that would be temporary. I seem to remember there were average speed cameras put up in Leicester or somewhere - the council expected to catch thousands per month and use the proceeds to fund more. In the first month they only caught 9 - so they had to abandon rolling out the scheme elsewhere.

[AtW]

There are no speed cameras in Wandsworth so I can speed all I like in my Aygo.

HTH

sasguru

[NickFitz]

So do u do 27mph on the speedo to allow for error? Do you check the speedo while driving at 30 or 27? Can you be sure you are being vigilant if you do check, and can you be sure you are within the limit if you don't check and are therefore not vigilant?

Speedometers aren't allowed to read less than your actual speed, only over it. If your speedo underreads, the car is not road legal.

I know when my car is doing 30mph because I've paid attention and I'm used to the car. My other car took a little while to get used to because of the different engine tone, but now I can do a steady 30 in that without any effort too.

I find this idea that it's somehow inevitable that one will regularly finish up over the limit unless one stares fixedly at the speedo quite odd. As I mentioned earlier, nobody ever seems to report frequently finding themselves going at 25 by mistake.

[NickFitz]

Nick will be claiming he does precisely 70 mph on the motorway next. All baloney of course, or he's a statistical outlier.

I usually stick around the 79 mark on the motorway, conditions permitting. Sometimes I do stick to 70 (except short bursts overtaking) just for fun; it's quite relaxing as long as you plan ahead to avoid getting trapped between lorries in the inside lane.

People are in too much of a hurry anyway, and it doesn't do them any good: for all the stress they cause themselves they're lucky to arrive as much as five minutes earlier on a long journey by speeding.

As J.B. Morton wrote:

We cannot get there fast enough!
We don't know why we're going there.
We only know we're on our way,
And that is all we really care.

So "Faster, faster!" is the cry,
There's not a second now to spare!
We cannot get there fast enough!
We don't know why we're going there.

[stek]

I usually stick around the 79 mark on the motorway, conditions permitting. Sometimes I do stick to 70 (except short bursts overtaking) just for fun; it's quite relaxing as long as you plan ahead to avoid getting trapped between lorries in the inside lane.

People are in too much of a hurry anyway, and it doesn't do them any good: for all the stress they cause themselves they're lucky to arrive as much as five minutes earlier on a long journey by speeding.

As J.B. Morton wrote:

We cannot get there fast enough!
We don't know why we're going there.
We only know we're on our way,
And that is all we really care.

So "Faster, faster!" is the cry,
There's not a second now to spare!
We cannot get there fast enough!
We don't know why we're going there.

Oddly enough I stick to 70-70 and bit on motorway, the odd 7-8mph over 3 hours makes little difference - seems I do have 30-35mph issue though, maybe this car, I don't know, no NIPS until I got this car, but I've had faster cars before so I dunno, it's no speedster that's for sure.

The only thing odd is the speedo is 20 - 40 ie no 30 on dial, clutching at straws. Fundamentally tho I may break the limit but I've been driving of 20-odd years with no accidents at all so I do feel I should get some leeway, or not?