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Third speeding ticket in six months!!
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Shouldn't have let him drive your car.Originally posted by xoggoth View PostI am still fuming for getting a speeding ticket for doing 55mph on a motorway. Bloody Edward Heath.
Shouldn't have accepted the five shilling bribe to have the points put on your license.nomadd liked this postComment
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According to Home Office figures, introducing a camera results in a drop in deaths and serious injuries of 19%. Remember Oxfordshire?The private company partnership that sites the cameras always state that they site cameras in black spots where there are frequent accidents. However, there as not been one accident recorded by the cameras when someone was speeding therefore other factors must be causing the accidents.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ras-switch-offThe experiment is over and the results are in. In April, Thames Valley police switched Oxfordshire's speed cameras back on. They had been off for eight months, as a result of the government's decision to cut the road safety grant. Then the police began assessing the damage. In the 31 days before the cameras were switched off (July 2010), the machines caught 2,286 speeding motorists. In the 30 days after they were switched back on, they caught 5,917.
As many residents of the county complained, between July 2010 and April 2011, Oxfordshire became like a racetrack. The effect of the switch-off seems to have been felt far from the camera sites: as soon as motorists received the message that they were unlikely to get caught speeding anywhere in the county, they seem to have felt empowered to drive recklessly everywhere. Or so a more important set of figures might suggest.
In the eight months without cameras, there were 18 deaths on the roads in Oxfordshire, compared with 12 in the same period in the previous year. This was the first time in four years that the number of deaths on the county's roads had risen. Serious injuries rose from 160 to 179.
These are not just numbers: they are real people, some dead, and some who will have to live with devastating injuries for the rest of their lives. Reading the contents of websites that celebrate excessive speed, you would think it were just a game: evading the police, vandalising cameras and using clever lawyers to avoid getting fined. It's not. The consequences are real and horrible.My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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I live in Oxfordshire, and it's cobblers. The county didn't turn into a racetrack, and the speed cameras were all still there and people still slowed down for them, and I never once felt empowered to drive recklessly anywhere.Originally posted by pjclarke View PostAccording to Home Office figures, introducing a camera results in a drop in deaths and serious injuries of 19%. Remember Oxfordshire?
And you of all people should know the folly of comparing two values and declaring it proof.
Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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It was probably just Jeremy Clarkson.Originally posted by VectraMan View PostI live in Oxfordshire, and it's cobblers. The county didn't turn into a racetrack, and the speed cameras were all still there and people still slowed down for them, and I never once felt empowered to drive recklessly anywhere.
And you of all people should know the folly of comparing two values and declaring it proof.
'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.Comment
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Bollocks, cameras not sited on acident black spotsOriginally posted by pjclarke View PostAccording to Home Office figures, introducing a camera results in a drop in deaths and serious injuries of 19%. Remember Oxfordshire?
Speed camera switch-off empowers reckless driving | George Monbiot | Environment | guardian.co.uk
Look at road deaths map BBC News - Every death on every road in Great Britain 1999-2010
and compare with camera map at Speed Camera Map
As I stated, not one accident recorded by a speed camera."A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George OrwellComment
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Well, yes, it was evidence rather than proof. Indeed if you read the whole piece the author concedes:-you of all people should know the folly of comparing two values and declaring it proof
However there are numerous, rigourous studies from the Home Office and regional police forces and in other countries showing that the cameras result in a measureable and significant decrease in deaths and injuries, for example see tables H7 and H8 here:So far, the sample size is too small and the period too short to be sure that the deaths and injuries around the county are linked to the switch-off. The experiment would have to run for longer and be conducted over a wider area. Any volunteers?
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ameraprogr4598My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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I would have thought that the high petrol prices will reduce the speeding convictions.
But will the authorities be happy with the improvement in accident stats or unhappy with the reduction in revenue?"I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
- Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...Comment
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You'd have to do a comparison with a baseline period before each camera was installed. These figures are collected and guess what they show?As I stated, not one accident recorded by a speed camera.
http://www.slower-speeds.org.uk/files/10myths031220.pdfMy subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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