A thread to bully all hypocritical God-bothering twunts ...

[d000hg]

Meaning your chosen God had the power to restore it. Meaning he was a complete t-w-a-t for taking it away in the first place then, wasn't he (or not restoring it earlier.)

The world is full of good people with health problems, doing great deeds every day of their lives for the benefit of others. And yet your god only chooses to intervene when those individuals get down on their knees and beg to him - which is all praying really is.

Absolutely pathetic.

Read a book about it. Your views are hardly original and have been answered (and rebutted, and re-rebutted) for centuries in far more depth than I can cover.

[sasguru]

LOL. They happen all the time, but it is not the norm every sick person is healed for instance. Same as how winning the lottery is the exception, but people win the lottery all the time, to re-use an earlier analogy.

As I said before if a lottery is arranged such that someone wins everyone week, then it's a mathematical certainty that someone will win every week.
That has nothing to do with a supernatural event, not even as an analogy.

[sasguru]

Read a book about it. Your views are hardly original and have been answered (and rebutted, and re-rebutted) for centuries in far more depth than I can cover.

I would apply that advice to yourself. HTH

[Zoiderman]

Read a book about it. Your views are hardly original and have been answered (and rebutted, and re-rebutted) for centuries in far more depth than I can cover.

What, like the bible? I prefer fact than fiction.

I prefer science, fact, not fiction.

I prefer the truth.

Honestly you god squad are mental

[nomadd]

Read a book about it. Your views are hardly original and have been answered (and rebutted, and re-rebutted) for centuries in far more depth than I can cover.

Utter rubbish. And you know it. Theologians have squirmed for centuries writing nonsense which claim "well, god moves in mysterious ways; but please don't question us further as we'll make ourselves sound even more idiotic..."

Please post the rebuttal here, if it's been know for centuries - rather than sprotting nonsense like "it's all in a book and has been answered and rebutted."

I await a sensible reply, not more side-stepping. Can you manage that?

[sasguru]

So basically dooghy you can't provide any verifiable evidence that miracles occur, apart form some hearsay and poorly documented anecdotes.
I put it to you that your belief system is faulty but that your pyschological commitment to it is so great that you can't think logically.
Like a wishy-washy version of a fundamentalist Muslim.

[d000hg]

So you're claiming that someone medically diagnosed as blind (and that diagnosis does sometimes include partial vision) suddenly became unblind after prayer.
You should be the oen producing valid documentary evidence of this not I. Do you have any?

No, I'm not in the habit of collecting other peoples' medical records! What do you want, a "Medical Miracle" certificate?

As a serious question, apart from seeing super-dramatic something happen with your own eyes, is there anything I could produce that would convince you? I contend there is not - two medical notes months apart could be explained by 'well sometimes people get better', it's not like she had an eye test the day before conveniently so she could get another 2 days later.

I repeat, serious question.

[TimberWolf]

They don't happen.

Well, with one exception: Us all getting paid for sitting on this forum all day.

I propose anything occurring at a probability of greater than 5 standard deviations from the mean is a miracle, like in science.

So while these miraculous events are very rare, they also happen all the time. Like gas Maxwell-Boltzmann molecular Speed Distribution, some atoms will be moving at enormous speed. Praise the Lord!

[d000hg]

Utter rubbish. And you know it. Theologians have squirmed for centuries writing nonsense which claim "well, god moves in mysterious ways; but please don't question us further as we'll make ourselves sound even more idiotic..."

That's utterly untrue. Systematic Theology covers biblical doctrine in huge depth. Even reading the New Testament as an amateur provides answers - I doubt you'd like them but that's not the same as saying it's not answered.

[Zoiderman]

That's utterly untrue. Systematic Theology covers biblical doctrine in huge depth. Even reading the New Testament as an amateur provides answers - I doubt you'd like them but that's not the same as saying it's not answered.

Look, try as hard as I could, I couldn't split those 5 mackerel I caught in Devon last week more than 6 ways, and there are only so many ways you can cut 5 baps until they start splitting.

So aside from attempting these myself, please, let me know of a miracle you have seen/know of/can define that I can research.