P*ss P**r pay

[doodab]

How on earth do you afford kumquats on that?

Reminds me of the blank stares I got in a rural sandwich shop when I asked for a bacon and avocado baguette. I actually had to explain what an avocado was.

[d000hg]

Bacon and avocado - ponce

[Basil Fawlty]

Reminds me of the blank stares I got in a rural sandwich shop when I asked for a bacon and avocado baguette. I actually had to explain what an avocado was.

They were probably confused with baguette as well....

[Basil Fawlty]

FTFY
Though it must be said that engineering contracting rates rarely exceed £40/hr.

I think it was right first time round, a mate of mine is a building service engineer (contractor) and struggles to get over £200 per day

[The Spartan]

You can imagine how you can live in South Wales on £40/hr.

I use mine to buy product and distrubute it through my valleys contacts

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

How on earth do you afford kumquats on that?

At the time I was looking to get a contract everybody on here was like no be careful, it's not as much as you think blah. I started on £250/day and I felt so rich compared to that peanuts permie salary......

[SimonMac]

It amazes me that anyone wants to be an engineer at all. this is ad for a civil engineer for Atkins -

[I]Permanent
Pay
£26,000 - £35,000

<snip>

I wonder what the rate was before an agent get their cut, bloody scum of the earth

[DodgyAgent]

I wonder what the rate was before an agent get their cut, bloody scum of the earth

tsk. That's Engineers for you eh?

[darrenb]

Welcome to modern Britain, where actually doing stuff is considered monkeys work and bulltulipting is the only valuable skill.

It doesn't matter what budget the Chancellor comes out with. Britain's economy will never recover until people stop listening to sales people and start listening to engineers -- civil, mechanical, software, etc.

It is a sea change in cultural values that is needed, and it is not going to happen overnight, if ever.

[Friday Blue]

I wonder what the rate was before an agent get their cut, bloody scum of the earth

it's a one off 2500-4500 fee depending on experience. i used to work for atkins (NW) as a grad engineer, joined just before the 2008 crash. i was on 24k at the time, but since the crash they lowered it to 23k. but i think it came back up to 25k since. i remember there were a few senior engineer who just got chartered, they were on around 35k.

Just had a grad joining my current office (East of UK), much smaller than atkins, they are paying her 22k.... (and we are already an oil and gas company)

from what i can gather, for non-oil/gas companies, the current level for a contruction type company:

grad: 22-28k (up to 35k for exxon, bp and other big suppliers)
2-5yrs: 30-39k
chartered around 5-10 years: up to 45k
principle engineer: up to 65k.

of course this depends on location and type of engineering company. I mostly focus on chemical/nuclear/oil/gas plant. i found civil, eletrical, mechanical engineers paid a good 10-20% less than process, safety, control engineers.