David Cameron: The Verdict

[Robinho]

No, it would be confirmation that the population is by and large lazy and without aspiration, preferring to do nothing whatsoever and be kept in comfort. For many this would provide a better standard of living than minimum wage drudge work, so who can blame them?

(I don't think that many know what left wing socialism is)

Same tulip.

[Alf W]

Let's put it another way. What has Cameron and the ConDems achieved since they have been in power? Have they done anything to encourage enterprise and aspiration? Have they done anything to improve the lot of society in general?

Most of what they've done is about cutting spending and stifling growth. There's a few tit bits in there for salivating Daily Mail readers like capping Housing Benefit (virtually noone fell into the category above the current cap anyway), restoring weekly bin collections (FFS ours gets empied fortnightly and it's only ever half full anyway), tough new powers on school discipline (he'll be bringing back fagging and caning soon) and behaving like a 10 year old over Europe.

Plus, let's drop the old Blair / Brown were responsible for the global financial crisis rubbish. The bankers tipped the table up gambling amongst themselves over snake oil options. Ireland and Greece etc were just a case of when and not if.

[DodgyAgent]

Let's put it another way. What has Cameron and the ConDems achieved since they have been in power? Have they done anything to encourage enterprise and aspiration? Have they done anything to improve the lot of society in general?

Most of what they've done is about cutting spending and stifling growth. There's a few tit bits in there for salivating Daily Mail readers like capping Housing Benefit (virtually noone fell into the category above the current cap anyway), restoring weekly bin collections (FFS ours gets empied fortnightly and it's only ever half full anyway), tough new powers on school discipline (he'll be bringing back fagging and caning soon) and behaving like a 10 year old over Europe.

Plus, let's drop the old Blair / Brown were responsible for the global financial crisis rubbish. The bankers tipped the table up gambling amongst themselves over snake oil options. Ireland and Greece etc were just a case of when and not if.

The coalition have been left with no options other than to cut the huge borrowing undertaken by Brown and Blair. They dont have money to spend on improving society. They are barely able to stop the UK from going bust let alone have money to spare to feed the culture of entitlement in this country.
Brown and Blair were quite happy to encourage banks to lend irresponsibly because they were themselves recipients of vast amounts of financial largesse courtesy of the banking system. They then spunked this money on many of your so called "social programmes" otherwise known as buying votes.
When times were good they should have been putting money aside for times like now.
if you are saying that the bankers were responsible for the mess when they were supposed to be under the control of the government then what do we have a government (particularly a labour one) for?

[The Spartan]

The coalition have been left with no options other than to cut the huge borrowing undertaken by Brown and Blair. They dont have money to spend on improving society. They are barely able to stop the UK from going bust let alone have money to spare to feed the culture of entitlement in this country.
Brown and Blair were quite happy to encourage banks to lend irresponsibly because they were themselves recipients of vast amounts of financial largesse courtesy of the banking system. They then spunked this money on many of your so called "social programmes" otherwise known as buying votes.
When times were good they should have been putting money aside for times like now.
if you are saying that the bankers were responsible for the mess when they were supposed to be under the control of the government then what do we have a government (particularly a labour one) for?

Well said, I couldn't agree more

[Alf W]

Well said, I couldn't agree more

So neither of you can think of any then? No? Nothing on the Tory party website at all? Let's forget the stuff you think is a waste of money like NHS, education, policemen, making sure that people have a roof over their head because we can etc. Business and enterprise - what have they achieved in that area?

[Doggy Styles]

The coalition have been left with no options other than to cut the huge borrowing undertaken by Brown and Blair. They dont have money to spend on improving society. They are barely able to stop the UK from going bust let alone have money to spare to feed the culture of entitlement in this country.
Brown and Blair were quite happy to encourage banks to lend irresponsibly because they were themselves recipients of vast amounts of financial largesse courtesy of the banking system. They then spunked this money on many of your so called "social programmes" otherwise known as buying votes.
When times were good they should have been putting money aside for times like now.
if you are saying that the bankers were responsible for the mess when they were supposed to be under the control of the government then what do we have a government (particularly a labour one) for?

You are replying to the economically illiterate. It's like explaining calculus to your dog.

Except your dog will just look up at you wagging its tail and it won't ask why calculus can't be jelly.

[The Spartan]

Anyone that thinks Labour would've have done a better job in the current climate it absolutely deluded and shouldn't eat mushrooms they find in a field

[DodgyAgent]

So neither of you can think of any then? No? Nothing on the Tory party website at all? Let's forget the stuff you think is a waste of money like NHS, education, policemen, making sure that people have a roof over their head because we can etc. Business and enterprise - what have they achieved in that area?

You really are struggling here.
The NHS and police are not a waste of money. A lot of money is wasted by both institutions which is different. It is interesting how you lefties say that anyone who challenges the entitlement of the public services to an endless supply of money is trying to get rid of them.
As far as business is concerned yes the UK is still in business thanks to the coalition.

[Spacecadet]

So neither of you can think of any then? No? Nothing on the Tory party website at all? Let's forget the stuff you think is a waste of money like NHS, education, policemen, making sure that people have a roof over their head because we can etc. Business and enterprise - what have they achieved in that area?

I can tell from your language that you're a die hard labour voter and view the Conservatives as evil Eton educated toffs whos sole purpose in life is to profit from the suffering of the population.

[Alf W]

You are replying to the economically illiterate. It's like explaining calculus to your dog.

Except your dog will just look up at you wagging its tail and it won't ask why calculus can't be jelly.

The 'huge debts' story is inflated political rhetoric. Firstly, historically, it is higher than it was in the noughties BUT it was historically low during that time. The second fact is, under the prudent Tories, it's going up again.



Simple fact. If you keep cutting you make people unemployed which means more benefits to pay out, less tax coming in, less money circulating in the system. A chimp should be able to understand that.

Where's the growth going to come from? The country doesn't have a Trust Fund to fall back on during hard times.